Thanks Miriam, I was waiting for someone more conversant with the Vandeleurs than myself to come in on this one.
Hi Dawn
Further to what Miriam has said you will find Pat Vandeleur in the Tithe Applotment Books sharing a property in Clonsnaghta
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarc ... rch=SearchTake note that in the NAI records
Vandeleur is mistranscribed as
Vandeleun and the townland for some strange reason reads as
Clontaghnaglar. (I have notified these errors to NAI)
It is interesting to look at Griffiths Valuation for this townland
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4 ... h=&height=Here we find that Col John Vandeleur is the landlord for the whole of Cloonsnaghta, whilst John Vandeleur is one of the tenants on some 31 acres. My impression is that these are two different people, but somehow related, if perhaps distantly. I could not identify Col John Vandeleur in Senan Scanlan's treatise, someone may be able to enlighten us on that.
I recently completed transcription of the Kildysart Baptism Registers and found that the early part of the register had many gaps, so it doesn't surprise me that Patrick and Thomas are missing from the record.
HOWEVERDawn, your post alerted me to the fact that I was missing twins Martin & Joseph in 1871. Upon checking back I discovered that I had indeed overlooked their entry.

My only defence is that there was shenanigans going on with that page of the register. One certain priest decided to do his own thing and completely disregard the proforma. Anyway that's now fixed and the posted file has been amended.
Above are two great examples of the need to double check everything in this genealogy business.
murf