BYU website w/hundreds of family histories, including Talty

[smcarberry]

This is the link to the "advanced search" feature of this site, which has been online for a few years but which I suspect is
far too underused. True, it has been axiomatic that a family historian cannot use information from Mormon members
without checking for confirming records, but this site is not IGI-type files. It is digitized records of many kinds, including
local history books. You can still do well by obtaining confirming records but spending a few minutes inputting surnames
into this search engine will point you in the right direction to know that some family members existed.

http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/search.php

I am showing some results for Talty of Clare, as an example.

Sharon Carberry


A twentieth century history and biographical record of north and west Texas / B.B. Paddock, editor. V.1, p. 451
Bridget Talty Dunne
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/docum ... 1252&REC=2

A history of Texas and Texans. V.3
Thomas Layden b. 1846 to Martin and Margaret (Blake) Layden
married 1877 to Mary Talty, daughter of Patrick then residing TX
description begins p. 1300, includes large photo of Thomas
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/docum ... 1023&REC=1

Talty of Milltown Malbay to Australia
Earl Family Chronicles by Christopher Earl Brennan
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/docum ... =wisconsin

[pwaldron]

Many thanks for all this Talty information, Sharon.

You must be psychic - I spent half a day during the week trying to figure out after whom the town of Talty, near Dallas, Texas was called. Your links above have filled a number of gaps.

I discovered that Talty, Texas was previously known as Irish Ridge and before that as Layden's Ridge. At a time when it had a population of only 16, there was a general store there run by Michael Francis (Mike) Talty (1869-1953) from Rahaniska in the parish of Moyarta, county Clare. So I believe that this Michael gave his name to the town which now has a population of over 1000 - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talty,_Texas and http://www.kaufmancounty.net/kchcr.htm

I found Mike Talty in the 1900 census as a boarder in the Layden household in Kaufman County, Texas. I would love to know his relationship to his landlady Mrs Layden, nee Mary Talty, daughter of Patrick Talty, who immigrated from county Clare to America.

Mike's obituary is online at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txfhp ... etalty.htm and http://www.historicforney.org/archives/ ... talty.html

I actually knew Mike Talty's sister Kathleen (1882-1972) who famously baked the cake into which Michael Collins, Harry Boland and friends put the key that enabled Eamon de Valera to escape from Lincoln Jail in the Spring of 1919. Full story in `Brave Brave Clare Girls,' by Padraig de Bhaldraithe, in The Other Clare, Volume 12 (March 1988), pp.35-37.

I have written about another Talty family, from Coor in the parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane, on another thread - http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=669

Probably by nothing more than a strange coincidence, a branch of the Coor Taltys also wound up in Dallas. In fact, descendants of both the Coor and Rahaniska Talty families are buried in the same Dallas cemetery (Calvary Hill). See, for example, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=36954597

There are several Talty marriages from Kaufman County at http://www.txgenweb5.org/txkaufman/marr ... rrcert.htm

There is lots of information on Talty, Texas and its inhabitants at http://www.historicforney.org/

A little more research brought me to http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin ... id=I176752 which suggests that Bridget Dunne nee Talty, either the first or second woman to locate permanently in El Paso, Texas, was a native of Breaffy in the parish of Kilfarboy.

So we have four Talty immigrants (Mrs Layden, Mrs Dunne, Peter of Coor and Mike of Rahaniska) from at least three different parishes (Kilfarboy, Kilmurry Ibrickane and Moyarta) in county Clare all settling in a sparsely-populated (by today's standard) Texas in the late nineteenth century. Population figures at http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/census.html

Finally on the subject of Taltys from county Clare, I would appreciate any information on Anna Teresa Webber née Talty, who died at her brother T.J.Talty's Alba Court Inn in New Smyrna Beach, Florida on 21 Dec 1924 and was buried in Washington, D.C., presumably with her late husband, W. T. Webber. This information is from a Florida death certificate. I think I have found her living alone as a widow in Saratoga Springs, NY in the 1920 census. After that the trail goes cold. Anna Teresa appears to have been born in Massachusetts shortly after her parents migrated there from the townland of Knockanalban in Kilmurry Ibrickane parish, around 1860.

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[smcarberry]

Paddy W., you are maximizing the Internet as a resource to track these Talty individuals. What you posted is a stellar
example of what can be accomplished by persistently tracking and clicking on links. I am happy if I can add anything.

By the way, the way that Forney area residents went so readily to Dallas has been very useful for my knowledge of that
part of Texas, which does figure in my own research. I am slowly piecing together the story of a Manitowoc County, Wisconsin family consisting of John Carberry (believed to be from Westmeath) and Catherine McMahon, very certainly of Clare although the definitive record for her has yet to be found. There were not only a number of Clare emigrants who found their way to a small cluster of towns and farms of Manitowoc County in the 1860s or so (only to almost all leave by 1885), but they seem to be mainly from East Clare. For instance, the first of those settlers was John Peppard, known to be from Killuran. My efforts are for the benefit of an elderly widow of a descendant of Miles McMahon, who was likely Catherine's brother and most surely the brother of Manitowoc Co. resident Patrick McMahon with a son named Miles. The marriage records of both Miles and Patrick state that their parents' names were Patrick and Ann McMahon. The reason that I discuss this in this space is that Miles relocated to Dallas and is in the same cemetery as Mike Talty. As you review Texas records, anything you might find bearing on a Clare placename for Miles would be a terrific help. I highly suspect that his origin was in the Feakle/Tulla area. I have been working on tracking down the burial of his brother Patrick, with slow progress as the involved U.S. jurisdictions do not have the enthusiastic interest of local societies like the Historic Forney Preservation League. The below data is just a small portion of what I have been collecting for the past five years.

Sharon Carberry


Find-a-Grave listing:
Miles McMahon
Birth: unknown
Death: Feb. 27, 1892
aged 64 years
Burial: Calvary Cemetery, Dallas, Dallas County, Texas

1880 TX Dallas Co., Precinct 6
McMAHON
Miles, 50 IRE, farmer
Margaret, 45 IRE
Miles F., 22 WI
Mary A. 20 WI
J.H., 18 WI
Richard, 16 WI
Ella, 14 WI
Patrick, 10 WI
John, 9 WI

1880 Township 9, Sheridan, Kansas
McMANN
Patrick, 50 IRE, farmer
Mary, 38 IRE
Patrick, 22 WI, farmer
Ann, 20 WI
James, 14 WI
Miles, 11 WI
William, 9 WI
Henry, 6 WI
Margaret, 3 WI
Michael, 3M KS

1900 Colorado, Las Anima Co., Trinidad, 3- Wd., 619 Nevada Ave.
McMahon
Patrick, 70 Ire, Apr 1830, widower, img'd 1851, nat'd
Miles, 29 WI, Jan 1871, livery? stablekeeper
Maggie, 19 WI, Jun 1880
Charles, 17 KS, Feb 1883, day lab'r
George, 16 KS, Mar 1884 at school

Akron Weekly Pioneer Press – July 29, 1904 – Miles McMahon, a long-time resident of Trinidad, was killed instantly at the new mine of the Valley Coal Company, a few miles west of Sopris, July 22nd, by the falling of a smokestack that was being raised with blocks and tackle.

[pwaldron]

Hi Sharon

Have you tried the Dallas Morning News Archives 1885-1977 at http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Arc ... on=keyword ? I took out a one day subscription ($9.95 for 1 day, 50 downloads max) about three years ago and found an enormous amount about the Taltys and my maternal Dallas cousins the Sullivans.

By the way, I don't think Miles McMahon is in the same cemetery as Mike Talty. The former is in Calvary Cemetery, the latter in Calvary Hill Cemetery. They are 6.5 miles apart according to Google maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source= ... =UTF8&z=13

Another good Texas site is the Portal to Texas History at http://texashistory.unt.edu/ --- it has the 1883 or 1885 wedding photograph of Dan Sullivan and my grandmother's first cousin Mary Horkan (from Mayo) at http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth34856/

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/ ... 3/?q=talty reveals that as early as 1902 Talty was a post village in Kaufman County.

I'll keep my eyes open for Miles McMahon. I presume he may also appear as Myles.

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[smcarberry]

Paddy W.,

Thanks very much for the great links. Yes, if you can, please keep an eye out for anything on the elder Miles/Myles, who died before 1900 (I now realize there were two similarly-named cemeteries in Dallas, thanks). His son Miles is documented in court records which I have, so more detail on him would not be worth the effort.

The Portal to Texas History has an exceedingly handy search facility and immediately yielded a useful biography on Rose Carberry's husband Luther Stark, with the exact year of the Carberry family's arrival in Texas and the fact that descendants very early started converting to other religions (for those not familiar with Texas, the distances can be incredibly far between churches, especially in the days of transportation by horse only). Rose Carberry's mother was Catherine McMahon, likely the sister or cousin of the elder Miles McMahon.

As I am doing this McMahon/Carberry research on a volunteer basis, I am not using records accessible via fee payment. I know where the McMahon brothers' naturalization papers are but must wait until I can get to that record office myself since a fee is involved otherwise. That's one reason that this research is taking years. Actually it is surprising how much is available online; I have an inches-thick file of print-outs on these McMahons' associated families in Wisconsin and points to the West, some of which mentions Clare placenames, usually Feakle or Tulla.

Sharon C.

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