Re: Michael McNamara, Curracloon Co. Clare
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:09 am
Hi Jimbo
Firstly, I was wrong in thinking that Waterpark was another name for Tingaree. They are two separate places, both in the townland of Fossa More – see the Tithe Applotment books for Tomgraney parish - “Waterpark house Division,” “Derrymore” and “Tengarry” are parts of the large townland of Fossamore (written sideways in the first column): http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarc ... _00308.pdf
Secondly, it has become clear to me that “Curracloon” was used by people from any of the three townlands of Curracloon, Curracloonmore and Curracloonbeg, when reporting a birth, death or marriage. The Registrars accepted whatever address people gave, and did not demand the official name of the townland. The townlands of Curracloon, Curracloonmore and Curracloonbeg correspond to Curracloon, Curacloonarthur and Curraloonbutler in the Tithe applotment books (for parish of Feakle). And there is a Patk. McNamara living in Curacloonbutler, who must not be discounted: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarc ... re/Feakle/
It is possible that Patrick is the forebear of the McNamaras living in Corracloon More at the time of Griffith’s Valuation (there were no McNamara tenants in Corracloon, or Corracloon Beg: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... feakle.htm
Jimbo, I agree with you that it appears most likely that John McNamara, the father of Michael, lived and died in Tingaree, Fossa More, Tomgraney. I think this is the record of his death: 2 Nov 1882, Tingaree: Death of John Macnamara, married, aged 74, Farmer; informant: Daniel McNamara, Tingaree: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 831921.pdf. Although no relationship is given, I think Daniel, who reported the death, is John’s son. It seems that Daniel inherited the farm in Tingaree, which meant that Michael’s best hope was to move away and “marry in” to another farm. I agree with you that Michael McNamara’s roots in Curracloon were fairly short between his marriage in 1889 and his death in 1905. The 1901 census describes Michael MacNamara as a farmer, and the house and building form shows that he had his own house. I don’t know how he would have come to have a farm and a house: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/r ... 000486232/ - but that is of little importance – it may be that a farm and house had become vacant and that Michael was accepted as the new tenant.
Like you, I thought that John (Daniel) in Griffith’s Valuation was very likely the father of Michael who married Mary Rodgers, and that “(Daniel)” was his grandfather, but your mention of the marriage of a John Mack in 1873, whose father was also called John brings that into doubt: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 208451.pdf
However, we know that there were other McNamaras in Waterpark, Fossa More, so I will check to see if John Mack belongs to those McNamaras rather than the McNamaras in Tingaree. Jimbo, in your account of the Fossa More McNamaras, you say “John Mack”, of Tingaree, married Winifred Mingoue but the address is Fossa More, not Tingaree. The address for Winifred McNamara, who died in Jan. 1901, is also Fossamore, not Tingaree: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 618391.pdf. Again I will do some checking, this time to see if there was another Daniel McNamara who might be described as a Step-son. I have a feeling that “our” McNamaras always gave their address as Tingaree, not as Fossa More (even though Tingaree was part of Fossa More). For that reason (more a feeling that a reason!), I wonder if Elizabeth McNamara of Fossamore who died in 1903 is the same Lizzie McNamara who was baptised in May 1852; address: Tengarrei.
As for the mystery Kate McNamara of Curracloon, who married Matthew McMahon in 1882, I thnk “Curracloon” might be Curracloon More, where other McNamaras were living. The townland of Corracloon is in Derrynagitta DED, but the adjacent townland of Corracloon More is in Feakle DED. You will see that in 1901 there is a John McNamara and his wife Kate living there. I’m guessing that the Kate McNamara who married in 1882 is their daughter: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... n_more.htm
Good work finding that Mary McNamara, the U.S. contact of John McNamara when he emigrated in 1912, was, in reality, his cousin and not his sister. That was an important find.
Sheila
Firstly, I was wrong in thinking that Waterpark was another name for Tingaree. They are two separate places, both in the townland of Fossa More – see the Tithe Applotment books for Tomgraney parish - “Waterpark house Division,” “Derrymore” and “Tengarry” are parts of the large townland of Fossamore (written sideways in the first column): http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarc ... _00308.pdf
Secondly, it has become clear to me that “Curracloon” was used by people from any of the three townlands of Curracloon, Curracloonmore and Curracloonbeg, when reporting a birth, death or marriage. The Registrars accepted whatever address people gave, and did not demand the official name of the townland. The townlands of Curracloon, Curracloonmore and Curracloonbeg correspond to Curracloon, Curacloonarthur and Curraloonbutler in the Tithe applotment books (for parish of Feakle). And there is a Patk. McNamara living in Curacloonbutler, who must not be discounted: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarc ... re/Feakle/
It is possible that Patrick is the forebear of the McNamaras living in Corracloon More at the time of Griffith’s Valuation (there were no McNamara tenants in Corracloon, or Corracloon Beg: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... feakle.htm
Jimbo, I agree with you that it appears most likely that John McNamara, the father of Michael, lived and died in Tingaree, Fossa More, Tomgraney. I think this is the record of his death: 2 Nov 1882, Tingaree: Death of John Macnamara, married, aged 74, Farmer; informant: Daniel McNamara, Tingaree: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 831921.pdf. Although no relationship is given, I think Daniel, who reported the death, is John’s son. It seems that Daniel inherited the farm in Tingaree, which meant that Michael’s best hope was to move away and “marry in” to another farm. I agree with you that Michael McNamara’s roots in Curracloon were fairly short between his marriage in 1889 and his death in 1905. The 1901 census describes Michael MacNamara as a farmer, and the house and building form shows that he had his own house. I don’t know how he would have come to have a farm and a house: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/r ... 000486232/ - but that is of little importance – it may be that a farm and house had become vacant and that Michael was accepted as the new tenant.
Like you, I thought that John (Daniel) in Griffith’s Valuation was very likely the father of Michael who married Mary Rodgers, and that “(Daniel)” was his grandfather, but your mention of the marriage of a John Mack in 1873, whose father was also called John brings that into doubt: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 208451.pdf
However, we know that there were other McNamaras in Waterpark, Fossa More, so I will check to see if John Mack belongs to those McNamaras rather than the McNamaras in Tingaree. Jimbo, in your account of the Fossa More McNamaras, you say “John Mack”, of Tingaree, married Winifred Mingoue but the address is Fossa More, not Tingaree. The address for Winifred McNamara, who died in Jan. 1901, is also Fossamore, not Tingaree: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 618391.pdf. Again I will do some checking, this time to see if there was another Daniel McNamara who might be described as a Step-son. I have a feeling that “our” McNamaras always gave their address as Tingaree, not as Fossa More (even though Tingaree was part of Fossa More). For that reason (more a feeling that a reason!), I wonder if Elizabeth McNamara of Fossamore who died in 1903 is the same Lizzie McNamara who was baptised in May 1852; address: Tengarrei.
As for the mystery Kate McNamara of Curracloon, who married Matthew McMahon in 1882, I thnk “Curracloon” might be Curracloon More, where other McNamaras were living. The townland of Corracloon is in Derrynagitta DED, but the adjacent townland of Corracloon More is in Feakle DED. You will see that in 1901 there is a John McNamara and his wife Kate living there. I’m guessing that the Kate McNamara who married in 1882 is their daughter: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... n_more.htm
Good work finding that Mary McNamara, the U.S. contact of John McNamara when he emigrated in 1912, was, in reality, his cousin and not his sister. That was an important find.
Sheila