Thank you very much for tracing John Hurst, one of the five Glandree prisoners, from Tulla to West Clare. The newspaper article in the Flag of Ireland stated that John Hirst was a weaver, which was the same occupation as John Herst and his father living in Roslara in 1901. But I would never of thought to look for John Herst in West Clare. And thanks for providing the link to the ancestry board. Christine from New Zealand will be happy to get "any info about the Irish connection", albeit, probably not what she was expecting.
The first marriage in 1884 of John Herst to Julia McNamara, the daughter of Thomas McNamara, of course, caught my interest given our search for the missing Civil War soldier Thomas McNamara.
As you stated, Julia McNamara Hurst died shortly after John Hurst was released from prison in 1900. The death record transcription stated that she died on 13 August 1900 at the age of 55 years old. So Julia McNamara was born about 1845, and John Hurst we know was born in 1858. An unusual age difference, so I took a close look at the death record:
At first glance the registrar does indeed appear to have written "55" for her age. But then compare her age to the numbers in sequence on the left, specifically, to "473". The registrar writes a very unusual "3" that resembles a "5". Next, check out the "5" in "475". Like most people, he writes a "5" using two pen strokes. Each number written for Julia's age was done by only one pen stroke. Therefore, I think the registrar actually wrote "33" for her age at death in 1900 — so born about 1867. Thus, about 17 years old when she married in 1884. A bit young, but this was the reported age at death. I tried to confirm her age with a baptism record, but could not find a Julia McNamara born to a Thomas McNamara. Nor a civil birth record, but I expect that she might have been a few years older than 33 when she died, and perhaps born just prior to the start of civil records in 1864.
Most baptism records past 1860 are available in Tulla and its neighboring parishes. Perhaps "Julia" was baptized under a different name? I am reminded of the Walsh family (page 27), where Josephine Walsh was baptized as Johanna Walsh. Even searching just based upon her father, Thomas McNamara, led to no leads. Since Thomas McNamara died prior to Julia's marriage in 1884, his death would be recorded in the civil records. A Thomas McNamara died in Tulla in 1867 (age 45), in 1867 (age 48), in 1869 (age 58), all in Tulla registration district; and also in 1867 (age 35) in Galway registration district. When these records become available on-line, they might provide an important clue to the identity of Julia McNamara.
When Julia McNamara married in 1884 she stated that she was living in Roslara. There was a John McNamara living in Roslara who between 1858 and 1884 had fathered 13 children. Did Thomas McNamara die at a young age, leaving his daughter Julia an orphan who went to live with relatives in Roslara?
Sheila, you have mentioned this John McNamara of Roslara whose second marriage was to Catherine McNamara of Derrymore Carmody, known as Derrymore East, only in passing (pages 14 and 19). I've researched both McNamara families below:
McNamara of Rosslara (Tulla)
A Michael McNamara was reported as an occupier of land in Rosslara in Tulla tithe applotment books of 11 February 1827.
There were no McNamara's reported in Rosslara townland in the 1855 Griffith Valuation. However, I still believe it would be likely that the Michael McNamara family was living in Rosslara, but as laborers / subtenants of a primary lessor. Thomas Clune, in Plot 3, leased houses (plural), 46 acres, valued at £25, and appears quite prosperous. Patrick Scanlan, in Plot 1, held 77 acres, also valued at £25. The Scanlan family also appear to have been quite prosperous farmers who likely hired laborers to do the dirty work. Their prosperity is evidenced by having a son who was a Catholic priest, and getting a daughter's marriage announcement in the Irish press, as well as having four priests at the wedding which must cost money:
POWER AND SCANLAN: April 24, at the Roman Catholic Church, Tulla, county Clare, by the Very Rev. J. Hays, P.P., V.G., assisted by the Rev. J. Scanlon (brother of the bride) [James, born 1846?], and the Rev. P. Quinn and Rev. Mr. Lynch, Thomas, third son o A. Power, Castlefergus, to Annie, third daughter [born 1856] of P. Scanlon, Roslara, Tulla, county Clare.
Flag of Ireland, 5 May 1883
John McNamara (born ≈ 1825; died in 1901 at the age of 76), son of Michael McNamara (per his second marriage), and Bridget O'Brien (born ≈ 1830; died in 1866 at the age of 36) were the parents (unknown marriage record) of four and possibly five children in Rosslara (Tulla Catholic parish records):
1.0 Michael McNamara, unknown baptism, perhaps baptized in home parish of his presumed mother, Bridget O'Brien? Or else his father John McNamara could have been married three times, with a wife prior to Bridget O'Brien? Michael was the eldest son, named after his grandfather. Michael McNamara was age 41 living in Brooklyn in 1900, so likely born about 1858 or 1859. His year of immigration was reported as 1883; and was living with his wife Nora (age 31, born Ireland, arrived 1890) , marriage year reported as 1893. In 1910 Michael and Nora [O'Brien] McNamara were living at Pearl Street in Brooklyn with brother Peter McNamara and boarder Emma Constable (age 11 in 1910; reported as adopted daughter in 1920).
............ 1.1 Emmaline J. Constable (age 1 in 1900)
2.0 Mat McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 6 January 1860; sponsors Julia O'Brien, John O'Brien. Living in 1922 as per brother's obituary, but no evidence as to where.MICHAEL McNAMARA, who died yesterday, was born in Roslara, Ireland. He came to this country as a child [in fact, about 24 years old] and had resided for the past forty years in St. Ann's and St. James' parishes. He was employed by the Edison Electric Company. He is survived by a widow, Nora O'Brien McNamara; a daughter, Emmaline J.; five sisters, Jane, Margaret, Mary, Nellie and Mrs. Anna O'Connor, and four brothers, Matthew, Patrick, Peter and Timothy. Funeral from his late home, 269 Pearl Street, Saturday, at 9:30 A.M., with requiem mass at St. James' Pro-Cathedral. Interment will be in Cavalry Cemetery.
Brooklyn Times Union, 12 January 1922
3.0 Jane McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 9 October 1861; sponsors Patrick Burke, Mary Connellan. Living in 1922, but no evidence as to where. From brother Michael's obituary, she was most likely not married.
4.0 Margaret McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 10 June 1863; sponsors Patt Quike(?), Nancy McMahon. Living in 1922, as above comments.
5.0 Mary McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 27 March 1865; sponsor Honora Curley. Living in 1922, as above comments.
A Bridget McNamara, age 36, died in Tulla registration district in 1866 (online record not yet available).
The widower, John McNamara, farmer, of Roslara, son of Michael McNamara, was married to Catherine McNamara, of Derrymore Carmody, daughter of James McNamara, on 17 March 1867, at Tulla chapel by the Rev. James Bowles; marriage witnesses Patrick Bourke, Margaret Fitzgerald. The Catholic marriage stated "married by special license" (see note 1 below). Neither parent was reported as deceased in the civil record. This was true for James McNamara of Derrymore who died in 1876 (see McNamara of Derrymore family tree in my next posting). Michael McNamara would have been much older. When additional death records become available online, this may confirm if Michael was still living in 1867 as well as his age and marriage status.
John McNamara and Catherine McNamara had eight children together in Rosslara (per Tulla Catholic parish records through 1878; Tulla civil registration for later births). John McNamara, of Roslara, farmer, married, age 76 years, died on 1 January 1901 (prior to census); informant daughter Annie McNamara. Catherine McNamara was reported as age 56 in 1901, and age 70 in 1911. <Rosslara, Ballinahinch, House 8, House 6> Kate McNamara, of Rosslara, widow of a farmer, age 72 years, died on 3 April 1916; informant son Patrick McNamara.
6.0 James McNamara, of Roslara, baptized as "Mack" on 9 February 1868; sponsors Pat Meehan, Anne Mack. Died prior to 1922, as not listed in brother Michael's obituary. A James McNamara died in 1869 at the age 0 years in Tulla registration district (online record not yet available).
7.0 Anne McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 4 April 1869; sponsors Martin Molony, Brigid McNamara. Ann McNamara, age 7 years, died at Rosslara on 7 November 1876; informant John McNamara.
8.0 John McNamara, of Roslara, baptized on 8 October 1870; sponsor Mary McNamara. John McNamara died in Manhattan on 9 September 1894; death certificate states: age 23, born in Ireland, parents John McNamara and Kate McNamara; residence 22 Beach Street; 2 years in Manhattan & USA.
9.0 Ellen McNamara, of Roslara, baptized as "Mack" on 18 December 1872; sponsors Mat Mack, Ellen Mack. Ellen McNamara, born 18 December 1873, in Tulla, Clare, declared to become a U.S. citizen on 31 January 1933 — most likely to collect social security. Her arrival in New York was reported as 1 April 1892. Indeed, Ellen McNamara did arrive in NY on the SS Germanic on 1 April 1892. She was the contact person for her younger sister Annie, who arrived in 1904. Nellie McNamara, age 33, returned home to visit her mother, Kate McNamara of "Roslara, O'Callaghan Mills", in 1912 (Tom McDowell listing). Ellen McNamara, of 1158 3rd Avenue, daughter of John McNamara and Catherine McNamara, died on 1 May 1948; informant sister Anna O'Connor.
10.0 Patrick McNamara, of Roslara, baptized as "MacNamara" on 10 September 1876; sponsors Mathew McNamara, Mary McNamara. <Rosslara, Ballinahinch, House 8, House 6> Patrick McNamara, of Roslara, farmer, son of John McNamara, married Hanora Carmody, of Kilbane, daughter of farmer Michael Carmody, on 23 February 1909 at Kilbane chapel in county Clare (Limerick reporting district).
............ 10.1 Bridget McNamara (age 1 in 1911) <Rosslara, Ballinahinch, x, House 6>
11.0 Peter McNamara, of Roslara, baptized as "Mack" on 20 June 1878; sponsors James Mack, Mary Cullou. Peter McNamara petitioned to become a U.S. citizen in NY on 1 May 1903; he reported his birth date as 29 June 1878, and arrival in NY on 10 May 1897. Indeed, Peter McNamara, age 19, was on the SS Britannic, arriving in NY on 21 May 1897. In the 1910 census, Peter McNamara (age 30) was living with his brother Michael McNamara (age 57), at 269 Pearl Street. "Peter McNamara, age 31, of 269 Pearl street, and Johanna M. O'Brien, 26, of 230 Troy avenue" were married on 10 November 1910 (Times Union, Brooklyn, 11 November 1910).
............ 11.1 Francis McNamara (age 8 in 1920)
............ 11.2 James McNamara (age 6 in 1920)
............ 11.3 Julia McNamara (age 2 in 1920)
............ 11.4 Ellen McNamara (1923 - 1923)
12.0 Thadeus McNamara, of Roslara, born on 1 March 1882 per Tulla civil registration *. Timothy McNamara, age 21, of Tulla, arrived in New York on 11 April 1902 on the SS Germanic, going to his brother Peter McNamara of 60 Beach Street, New York. Was living in 1922 according to brother Michael's obituary, perhaps still in New York?
* Timothy, Thady, Thadeus are all separate names when searching using irishgenealogy.ie
13.0 Annie McNamara, of Roslara, born on 14 April 1884 per Tulla civil registration. <Rosslara, Ballinahinch, House 8, x> Annie McNamara, age 20, from Tulla, arrived in New York on 14 September 1904 on the SS Oceanic, going to her sister Ellen McNamara of 19 East 67th Street, New York. Anne O'Connor was the informant and reported sister when Ellen McNamara died in 1948. On 21 January 1912 , Anne McNamara, age 25, born in Ireland, daughter of John McNamara and Catherine McNamara, married Francis O'Connor, age 31, born in NY, son of Irish born John O'Connor and Elizabeth Donovan. The O'Connor family lived in Manhattan, on West 51st street in 1920, and Ninth Avenue in 1940.
............ 13.1 John O'Connor, (age 7 in 1920 census)
............ 13.2 Frank O'Connor, (age 5 in 1920 census)
............ 13.3 Catherine O'Connor, (age 2 in 1920 census)
............ 13.4 Ambrose O'Connor, (age 18 in 1940 census)
James McNamara (≈1823 - 1918) of Cloonloum More (Clonlea)
A John McNamara was reported in Clonloum, Clonlea in the Tithe Applotment books dated February 1827.
In 1855 Griffith Valuation, there were no McNamara's reported in Cappalaheen, Cloonloum More or Cloonloum Beg townlands.
James McNamara and Catherine Staunton (or Stanton, Stundon etc) were the parents of nine children. Four children were baptized in Tulla Catholic parish with a location of Derrymore; five children were baptized in O'Callaghan Mills Catholic Parish with a location of Clonloum, or variation thereof — thanks Sheila and Sharon for these respective transcriptions.
James McNamara and Catherine Stauntion named their first born son, John, in 1849. Very likely, James McNamara (≈1823 - 1918) was the son of the John McNamara reported in Clonloum in the Tithe Applotment books of 1827. Perhaps James McNamara's move from Derrymore to Clonloum around 1858, was a return to his father's holding when John McNamara became too old to work his land? John McNamara of Clonloum might be one of the several John McNamara's whose deaths were registered in Tulla between 1864 and 1870, including: a John McNamara died in 1866, aged 68; a John McNamara died in 1868, aged 67; a John McNamara died in 1869, aged 69; and a John McNamara died in 1870, aged 92. These records are not yet available online, but might provide evidence that James McNamara was the son of John McNamara of Clonloum.
Catherine McNamara, of Clonloum, married, 70 years old, farmer's wife, died on 21 November 1894; informant husband James McNamara. James McNamara, farmer, widower, was 76 years old in 1901 living in "Clonlum More". In 1911, James McNamara, labourer, widower, 85 years old, was a boarder living with Patrick O'Brien (age 75) in "Cloonloum More". <Clonlum More, Kyle, House 18; Cloonloum More, Kyle, House 9>
Finding the death record for James McNamara of Clonloum was a struggle as I believe the registrar made a few mistakes. A James McNamara, of Clonloum, married, labourer, 45 years old, died on 10 October 1918 at Scariff Hospital and the registrar entry stated "Old Age Certified". It is clearly written "45", but the transcription at irishgenealogy states "75" — I reckon both are incorrect. In the 1911 census, the only McNamara living in Clonloum was the 85 year old James McNamara. I believe that James McNamara, of Clonloum, a widower, died in October 1918 at the approximate age of 95 years old. So born about 1823, one year before his wife Catherine Staunton, and their first born daughter was born in 1843.
Coincidentally, James McNamara died the day the Irish mail boat RMS Leinster was sunk by a German U-boat. Were any of the children of James McNamara living in Clare at the time of his death on 10 October 1918?
James McNamara (≈1823 - 1918) and Catherine Staunton (≈1824 - 1894) were the parents of nine children:
1.0 Ellen McNamara, no location, baptized as "MacNamara" on ? 1843, mother reported as "E. Stanton"; no sponsors listed/legible.
2.0 Kate McNamara, Derymore, baptized on 11 October 1845, mother reported as "Kate Stunton"; sponsor Mary Callaghan.
3.0 John McNamara, Derymore, baptized on 29 June 1849, mother reported as "Kate Stundon"; sponsor Bid Connel. Died in infancy.
4.0 John McNamara, Derrymore, baptized on 22 July 1851, mother reported as "Catherine Stundon"; sponsor Eliza Cahill.
The baptisms changed to O'Callaghan Mills Catholic Parish records in 1855. Cappalaheen and Cloonloum are in Clonlea civil parish, and are very close to Derrymore East in Tulla Parish.
5.0 James McNamara, Capalaheen, baptized on 7 May 1855, mother reported as "Catherine Stanton"; sponsors James Connell, Bridget Hasset.
6.0 Elizabeth McNamara, Clonlum, baptized on 24 December 1858, mother reported as "Catherine Standon"; sponsor Anne Standon.
7.0 Anne McNamara, Clonloum, baptized on 21 June 1861, mother reported as "Kate Stundons"; sponsors Mick Corbet, Anne Standon.
8.0 Michael McNamara, Clonloun, baptized on 18 January 1865, mother reported as "Catherine Staunton"; sponsors Michael Staunton, Honorah Egan.
9.0 Mary McNamara, Clonlum, baptized on 23 August 1866, mother reported as "Catherine Stanton"; sponsors Michl. Callighan, Mary Moloney.
Note 1, "marriage by special license": thought this might be related to John McNamara and Catherine McNamara possibly being related, McNamara cousins, but this was unlikely to have been the case. Family Search has an article "Marriage Allegations, Bonds and Licences in England and Wales", with a list of reasons for a special license, although this term was not used. Including #2, "The parties differed greatly in age, such as a widow marrying a much younger man or an old man marrying a young woman".
John McNamara was born in 1825 and Catherine McNamara was born sometime in the early 1840's, so this explanation would apply for their marriage in 1867.
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/M ... _and_Wales
EDIT: reflect Sheila's discovery of death record of John McNamara (8.0) in NY and likely Tulla death record for James McNamara (6.0). Change parents of Catherine McNamara who married the widower John McNamara of Rosslara. See next two postings.