Information is wanted of Thomas McNamara, of Glandree,

[smcarberry]

Prodigious amount of research being reported here, to which I can add a teaspoonful, which may only add to your work but here goes:

My notes have had a 1914 obituary for Martin F. McNamara and actually there is a second obit for him, too (all typed below, regretfully unable to upload images). His parents in both are named as John and Catherine, and both obits list one sibling, brother Michael. I too saw Martin with his married sister Winifred/Willifred Connors (O'Connor) in 1900. Despite the 1900 census showing a later immigration year, Martin was newly arrived in 1880, when as a 21-year-old he was an attendant at St. Elizabeth's insane asylum. Now I know it was the family business to be there.

Martin's wife was also an O'Connor, according to the 1907 obituary for Mary O'Connor, the wife's mother. It looks like the O'Connor's church was St. Patrick's, while Martin McNamara attended St. Peter's. The ones who were St. Patrick's parishioners used Mount Olivet Cemetery, but Martin's obits were silent on a cemetery.

I did just a quick look for Martin's brother Michael and saw the 1920 listing in D.C. of M.F. McNamara, age 56, who immigrated 1881, married, and had a daughter Winifred.

Sharon C.

Items for this group:
The funeral of Martin F. McNamara, who died yesterday, will be held from Zuhorst's chapel, 201 East Capitol street, on Monday morning at 8:30 o'clock. Mass will be celebrated at St. Peter's Catholic church, Second and C streets southeast, at 9 o'clock. Mr. McNamara was the son of the late John and Catherine McNamara and the brother of Michael McNamara.
(Washington Times, 19 Dec 1914)

Washington Times, 20 Dec 1914: repeats basic information of 19 Dec edition and adds that relatives and friends are invited to attend. A second paragraph is addressed to fellow members of Martin's Knights of Columbus chapter, signed by C.E. Edwards, G.K. (Grand Knight, leader).

O'CONNOR. On Saturday, December 16, 1905, at 2:30 o'clock, MARY, wife of the late James L. O'Connor, mother of Mrs. Martin F. McNamara, Patrick F. and John J. O'Connor. Funeral from the residence of her son, P. F. O'Connor, 617 D street northwest, Tuesday morning, December 19, and thence to St. Patrick's Church, where high mass will be said at 10 o'clock for the repose of her soul. Relatives and friends respectfully invited to attend. (Evening Star, 18 Dec 1905)

O'CONNOR – Suddenly, on Wednesday, March 25, 1914, JOHN J., beloved son of the late James L. and Mary O'Connor, and brother of P.F. O'Connor and Mrs. Martin McNamara. Funeral will take place Friday...from late residence, 617 D street northwest; thence to St. Patrick's Church...Interment at Mount Olivet Cemetery.
(The Washington Herald, 26 Mar 1914)

Also note:
On Monday November 4, 1907...JOHN SHEEDY, husband of the late Nora Sheedy and son of the late Martin and Ann Sheedy, a native of (Scariff) County Clare, Ireland. Funeral from the residence of his sister, Mrs. B. McMahon, 26 I street northeast...thence to St. Aloysius Church, where a requiem mass will be said for the repose of his soul. Relatives and friends are invited. (Chicago, Ill., and Kansas City, Kan., papers please copy.) (Evening Star, 5 Nov 1907)

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

Brilliant work! And most interesting. The first thing I take from it is that there is no mention whatsoever of Michael (aged 48 in 1901). This is leading me decide that Michael is not a son of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley after all. We know that his father is Patrick and that his mother is Kate as they are still living with him in 1901, but I now think this Kate is definitely not Kate Foley.

To return then to Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley and those connections you have found for them. Well, firstly, Kate and Winifred in Washington D.C. are definitely their daughters. And I feel sure that Thomas who died in Washington in 1928 is their son who was born in 1861. I think you may be right in thinking that Patrick in Uggoon, who married Bridget Connors, is another son. I failed to find a record of the marriage of Patrick and Bridget, which would have been interesting. Yes, I think that Mary McNamara, the niece of who benefitted from Kate’s will, is Patrick’s daughter, and that she is the Mary McNamara mentioned in Tom McDowell’s list of emigrants, as you have noted. The John, who was supposed to have gone to Mary in 1909, is at home with his father, Patrick in Uggoon, Upper, in 1911. Maybe he got cold feet and did not go.
So it would appear that Patrick married to Bridget Connors was a brother of Kate, Winifred, Thomas etc.
Familysearch.org shows the marriage of Mary Mcnamara to Richard T Bennett on 30 Jun. 1913, but doesn’t give parents’ names, unfortunately.

Jim, you say that Kate’s father had two sons named Pat (in 1831 and 1833), but there is no baptism entry for a Pat McNamara, son of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley. Patrick McNamara married Kate Foley in 1846 and the baptisms recorded for that couple go from 1846 to 1861 (the baptism of Thomas) – As I say, I don’t see a Pat but I feel very sure that they had a son named Patrick whose baptism was not recorded or is illegible.
In the 1921 Rate Book, Patrick McNamara, Uggoon, owns plot 13AaB (house and land), also plot 14 (land only), plus a share of plot 16 (666 acres of mountain – land only). In Griffiths, plot 13AaB and plot 14 were held by Matthew McNamara. Normally I would guess that Matthew is Patrick’s father, but, taking what you have found into consideration, I think Mathew may be an uncle – or some other close relative.

It would appear, from the work you have done, that James McNamara (who married Margaret Bowles) is an uncle of Kate, Winifred, Thomas etc.. And therefore a brother of their father, Patrick (who married Kate Foley in 1846). The civil record of the marriage of James and Margaret in 1871 shows that his father was James McNamara, of Glendree (deceased). It appears that James (Jun) “married in”. He is still alive in 1921 and the Rate Book shows that the farm he owns is the plot 26b and 28, the plots held by John Bowles in Griffith’s.
If James is a brother of Patrick (who married Kate Foley), then Patrick’s father was James also.

The Delia McNamara with relatives in Derryfadda, I haven’t looked at. But it’s interesting that she is returning to Pittsburgh PA. I notice that Tom McDowell’s list of emigrants shows Thomas McNamara whose relative in Ireland is his father, Pat McNamara, Glendree, Feakle, emigrating in 1910 aged 20; going to his brother John McNamara, 160, Brownsville, Pittsburg, Penn.. Now this Patrick is not Patrick in Uggoon. He is the Patrick who was married to Kate McMahon and who is aged 52 in 1901. I can’t figure out just now how he fits in with the rest (my brain has shut down) and maybe there is no connection anyway.

Jim, this is all a bit of a distraction from Thomas McNamara, our Civil War veteran, but, if so, it is my fault this time – it was I who tried to pass off Michael Foley who was baptised in 1847 as a son of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley – hence all this work. I have nobody to blame but myself.

As I said at the beginning, we know that Michael’s mother is Kate. And we know she did not die until 1904, aged 84; informant: Mary McNamara, daughter of deceased, Glandree (this must be Mary Nash, her daughter-in-law).
Kate McMahon who was married to Patrick McNamara (aged 55 in 1901) died in 1894, aged 40; informant Patrick McNamara, husband of deceased, Glendree.
Another Kate McNamara, Glendree, died in 1887, aged 65; informant Kate McNamara, Glendree. I had assumed that this Kate (aged 65) must be Kate McMahon’s mother-in-law, but now I wonder if she is the mother of Kate McNamara who emigrated to Washington D.C.?

Sheila

P.S. Do you remember that we started talking about the Mealys in Gorteenreagh (Feakle) when Sharon Carberry posted a newspaper report saying that Miss Birdie Mealy, a former employee of St. Elizabeth, had returned to Ireland and married Mr. John Monogue: http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtop ... f=1&t=6907. That hospital must have been a joint Tulla-Feakle operation.

[Jimbo]

Hi Sharon,

Thanks for the tidbits of information on Martin Francis McNamara. Can you believe in 1910 that there were three or four Martin Francis McNamara's living in Washington D.C.!

The funeral of Martin F. McNamara, who died yesterday, will be held from Zuhorst's chapel, 201 East Capitol street, on Monday morning at 8:30 o'clock. Mass will be celebrated at St. Peter's Catholic church, Second and C streets southeast, at 9 o'clock. Mr. McNamara was the son of the late John and Catherine McNamara and the brother of Michael McNamara.
(Washington Times, 19 Dec 1914)

This Martin F. McNamara was born in Washington D.C. and in the 1910 Census was living with his mother Catherine McNamara (age 66), he was single and age reported as 43 (born in 1867?). He was a contractor in Washington D.C. who frequently got his name in the newspapers for local government jobs. In 1860, Martin McNamara (age 9 months) was living with his parents John McNamara (age 23) and Catherine McNamara (age 25) both born in Ireland. Possible County Clare connections? Just like Mary McNamara went to Washington D.C. in 1900 to her Aunt Kate McNamara; it wouldn't be too surprising if Kate McNamara went to DC in the 1870's to visit her relatives who arrived decades prior.

FUNERAL TOMORROW FOR M.F. M'NAMARA
Burial in Mount Olivet for Retired G.P.O. Employee. Rites at 10 A.M.
Martin F. McNamara, 75, retired Government Printing Office employee, who died Tuesday at his home, 27 Michigan avenue northeast, will be buried tomorrow in Mount Olivet Cemetery. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. in St. Martin's Catholic Church, following brief services at his residence.

Mr. McNamara for 44 years was in the Government service, serving for 38 years with the G.P.O.. He was assigned to the office of the Congressional Record clerk and for some time was stationed in the Capitol Building and later in the Senate Office Building. He was retired in 1932.

A native of County Clare, Ireland, he came to this country when 19 and lived in Chicago. He came to Washington in 1881 to work at the Soldier's Home and afterward held a position in the Post Office Department until transferred to the G.P.O.

He was a member of St. Martin's Catholic Church, the Holy Name Society, the Immaculate Conception Chapter of the Third Order of St. Dominic and of Old Glory Post of the Woodmen of the World.

Surviving are his widow, Mrs. Maria A. McNamara: three daughters, Miss Agnes McNamara, Miss Winifred F. McNamara, and Miss Cecelia M. McNamara; a son, Thomas A. McNamara, and granddaughter, Ellen McNamara all of this city. (Evening Star, 6 May 1937)

A more brief announcement states "beloved husband of Maria Agnes McNamara (nee Moroney)". This Martin F. McNamara is most likely the one reported in the 1880 census working at the Government Home for the Insane (the Soldier's Home sounds much better for an obituary). Perhaps another relative from County Clare, but he is not the brother of Kate, Winifred, and Thomas from Glandree. In 1900, the other Martin from Glandree (see more below) was living with his sister Winifred Connors. In 1900, this Martin McNamara (age 41) was living with his wife Maria A. (age 31), daughters Agnes (age 7) and Thomas (age 4); his occupation is government messenger. The 1899 U.S. Civil Register for the Government Printing Office has Martin McNamara, born in Ireland, appointed in Cook County, Illinois, 4th congressional district; working in Washington D.C. as a driver earning 25 cents per hour.

O'CONNOR. On Saturday, December 16, 1905, at 2:30 o'clock, MARY, wife of the late James L. O'Connor, mother of Mrs. Martin F. McNamara, Patrick F. and John J. O'Connor. Funeral from the residence of her son, P. F. O'Connor, 617 D street northwest, Tuesday morning, December 19, and thence to St. Patrick's Church, where high mass will be said at 10 o'clock for the repose of her soul. Relatives and friends respectfully invited to attend. (Evening Star, 18 Dec 1905)

This Martin F. McNamara was a little tricky to figure out. His father-in-law, the late James L. O'Connor mentioned in the obituary was a saloon keeper at 66 H Street NE and died in 1897:

O'CONNOR. On Sunday, May 23, 1897, at 6 p.m., after a short but painful illness, JAMES L. O'CONNOR, beloved husband of Mary O'Connor, a native of County Clare, Ireland.
Funeral will take place from his late residence, 66 H Street northeast, thence to St. Aloysius' Church, where requiem high mass will be celebrated at 9 a.m. Wednesday, May 26, 1897. (Washington Times, 25 May 1897)

Unlike the earlier obituary for Mary O'Connor, the children are not listed. I believe it may have been too complicated, as Mary (maiden name not stated in her obituary) appears to have had two husbands: a Mr. Moroney, then James L. O'Connor. So the "Mrs. Martin F. McNamara", is actually her daughter "Maria Agnes Moroney McNamara" wife of the Martin who died in 1937. Here is the evidence for this:

MORONEY. Suddenly, Saturday, June 29, 1901, at 2 o'clock p.m. in his twenty-seventh year, THOMAS E. MORONEY, the beloved son of Mary and the late James L. O'Connor. Funeral Tuesday, July 2, at 8:30 o'clock, from his late residence, 617 D Street northwest, thence to St. Patrick's Church, where mass will be said for the repose of his soul. Relatives and friends respectfully invited to attend. (Evening Star, 1 July 1901)

Martin F. McNamara, the brother of Kate McNamara of St Elizabeths Hospital, was living with their sister Winifred O'Connor in the 1900 Census; occupation was carpenter. Martin McNamara married Mary Florence Tyne on 15 April 1890 who had been born in Washington D.C. about 1869; her father Patrick E. Tyne was born in Ireland. About 1892, Martin and Mary had a daughter named Mary E. McNamara. I could not locate an obituary for this Martin F. McNamara, but the 1939 City Directory stated Mary F (widow Martin F) as well as their daughter Mary E as an assistant illustrator at the Department of Agriculture, both living at 1711 Q Street nw.

[Jimbo]

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for your feedback. I had hoped you would have been able to figure everything out by now!

As far as the Patrick (age 91) and Kate McNamara (age 79) listed in the 1901 Census in House 5. Most likely "Kate" is the mother listed at the baptism for following children with Patrick McNamara as the father for each and every one: 1833, Patrick to "Kate Couny"; 1836, Michael to "Anne Couney"; 1839, Miles to "Ann Coony"; 1844, Anne to "Nancy Couney". I don't believe these would be separate families; and "Kate" is used for one of the baptisms. With "Kate Foley" separated from this family, I don't think we need to over complicate who the mother "Kate" is on the census report.

Now regarding the mystery 1847 baptism where a child named "Michael" born to a "Michael Foley", mother as "Foley" with no first name, as well as no sponsor. Surely, this is the 1847 baptism of Patrick, born to Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley, likely sponsor Kate's brother Michael Foley. Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley had married one year before in 1846. This would be their eldest son Patrick who remained in Ireland, and who in 1910 Kate returned to when she visited her "Brother Patrick". The same "Patrick" that Kate's niece visited in 1907. The priest simply put Michael Foley, the sponsor, in the wrong place. He knew the father and baptized child had the same name, so repeated the mistake for the child's name. Not sure why he would leave out the name of the mother, but he was clearly confused.

But where is the elder brother Patrick reflected in the 1901 Irish Census? This would be the same "Brother Patrick" that Kate McNamara visited in 1910; and father Patrick that Kate's niece Mary McNamara visited in 1907. My theory was that he was the "Patrick McNamara" who married "Bridget Connors", and was a widow (age 53) in Upper Uggoon in House 3. This is absolutely false. And can be proven so by the below 1935 obituary from Washington D.C.:

M'NAMARA, VETERAN ENGINEER, EXPIRES
Native of Ireland Came to This Country 40 Years Ago - B&O Employee.

Matthew McNamara, 60, veteran locomotive engineer of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, died yesterday of a heart attack at his home 1406 Oren street northeast.

As engineer, Mr. McNamara had a record of no accidents in 30 years. A native of Ireland, he came to this country 40 years ago and began working for the railroad, reaching the position of engineer in 10 years.

He was a member of the Holy Name Society. He is survived by his widow, Mrs. Anne Moroney McNamara; two sons Edward and Charles McNamara; a daughter, Miss Irene McNamara; two sisters here Mrs. Anne Murphy and Mrs. Ellen Keehan; another sister in Baltimore, Mrs. John Hogan; a brother Michael McNamara of this city, and two other brothers, a sister and his father, in Ireland.
Funeral services will be held Wednesday at 9 a.m. at Holy Name Catholic Church. Burial will be in Mount Olivet Cemetery. (Evening Star, 25 November 1935).

Matthew and his siblings are the children listed in the baptisms of Patrick McNamara and Bridget Connors between 1872 and 1879, and the younger ones listed in the 1901 census. But why isn't Kate's niece Mary McNamara Bennett listed in this 1935 obituary? She was still living in Washington D.C. in the 1940 Census. Obviously, Mary Bennett is not the Mary born in 1872 to Patrick McNamara and Bridget Connors.

The only thing left to discover was which daughter was the "Mrs. John Hogan" living in Baltimore. "John Hogan" is a very common name in a big city like Baltimore, but I zeroed in on "John F Hogan", occupation physician, wife "Mary". I still thought "Mary McNamara" might be a Nurse, and speculated that doctors frequently marry nurses. Dr. John F Hogan was on the front line of the 1918 flu epidemic as chief of the city Health Department's Bureau of Communicable Diseases. An interesting story, and was a bit disappointed when I discovered that his wife Mary was born in Connecticut. Mrs. John Hogan was proving difficult to find so I switched to "Mrs. Ellen Keehan". Fortunately, an important, but easy to overlook clue was buried in this rather long wedding announcement from 1937:

Miss Catherine E. Keehan
Mr. Robert Clancy, Wed.

MISS CATHERINE EVELYN KEEHAN, daughter of Mrs. Ellen Keehan of 833 Sixth Street northeast, was married to Robert S. Clancy, son of Mrs. Elizabeth R. Clancy of 947 Shepherd street northwest. Thursday morning at the 10 o'clock nuptial mass in St. Aloysius' Roman Catholic Church. The ceremony was performed by the Rev. Father Dalton, S.J. and Mr. Ashley was at the organ. The church was decorated with palms, fern and pink gladioli.

The bride, escorted by her uncle, Mr. Maurice D. Murphy, wore a period gown of white satin with a train from the shoulders and yoke, a stand-up collar of imported Belgian lace and a fingertip veil which fell from a braided halo of satin and net trimmed with gardenias and lilies of the valley. She carried a bouquet of Killarney roses and lilies of the valley.

The matron of honor, Mrs. Cecilia Cronin, a cousin of the bride, wore a dress of cornflower blue marquisette, Grecian style, with a long, full skirt and an embroidered girdle, a picture hat of leghorn straw trimmed with velvet ribbon to match the dress, and satin slippers, also matching. She carried a bouquet of Spring flowers. The maid of honor, Miss Irene McNamara, another cousin of the bride, wore a watermelon pink marquisette dress similar to that of the matron of honor, with matching accessories. Her bouquet was of Spring flowers.

The best man was Mr. Daniel Clancy, the bridegroom's brother, and the ushers were Mr. Aloysius Gleason and Mr. Edward Garner, both of Washington.

Immediately after the ceremony there was a breakfast for the wedding party at the Continental Hotel, followed by a reception in the home of the bride's mother.

The bride's mother wore a gown of navy blue marquisette trimmed in white with white accessories and a corsage of pink roses.

The bridegroom's mother wore a gown of navy and white printed chiffon with accessories in navy and a corsage of pink roses.

The out-of-town guests included the Rev. Charles Lynch of Providence, R.I., and the Rev. John P. Gallagher, S.J., and Mr. and Mrs. John J. Hogan and their family of Baltimore.

Mr. and Mrs. Clancy left on an extended boat trip to Boston and Montreal, Mrs. Clancy in a dress of green and white print silk linen with white accessories and a corsage of gardenias. On their return they will live in University Village, in Brookland, D.C.

Mrs. Clancy is a graduate of Eastern High School and Mr. Clancy attended Gonzaga High School.
(Evening Star, 5 July 1937)

Providing a middle initial for their out-of-town guest John J. Hogan was enough information to find him in the Baltimore City Directory and then the 1910 Census where John Hogan (age 32) and Mary [McNamara] Hogan (age 31) are living with two children John J. (age 5) and Annie C. (age 0). Therefore Mary Hogan could not be the single Mary McNamara on the 1907 trip back to Ireland to visit her father Patrick.

This still leaves the mystery of where is brother "Patrick" who Kate McNamara of Washington D.C. visited in 1910? Specifically, where is Patrick in the 1901 and 1911 Irish Census?

We now know that most of the children of Patrick McNamara and Bridget Connors left for America, but we still don't know who are the parents of this Patrick? Does the fact that Patrick's granddaughter Catherine Keehan in Washington D.C. married a Roboert Clancy point to a connection to the Andrew Sheedy McNamara and Margaret Clanchy clan of Glandree? Is the Patrick McNamara who married Bridget Connors a "Sheedy McNamara"?

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

I’m afraid I don’t accept the replacing of Kate aged 79 with “Anne” – the record of her death in June 1905 gives her name as Catherine McNamara, aged 84.

But I should say I made a mistake in thinking that the Kate McNamara who reported the death of Kate McNamara in 1887 was the Kate who went to Washington D.C. (daughter of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley). I realised my mistake when I re-read your posting and saw that Kate was already working in St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in 1877.

Yes, I had also decided that there were two Mary McNamaras:
(1) One is Kate’s niece who married Richard Bennet, and who is related to the daughters of James McNamara. Mary Bennet benefitted from Kate’s will. And when Kate visited Ireland in 1903, she was with a Mrs. Margaret Bond, who appears to be a daughter of James.
(2) The other is Mary the daughter of Patrick McNamara and Bridget Connors who was born in 1872. She was joined by two or three of her siblings (as listed in Tom McDowell’s list of emigrants). I had decided that Mary was the Miss Mary McNamara aged 24 who is returning from a trip to Ireland in 1907 and whose contact in Ireland is Patrick McNamara, Glendree, but I see that you have found that that Mary was married by then. No, we don’t know that name of the father of Patrick in Uggoon – I have failed to find a record of his marriage to Bridget Connors. All we know is that the farm that Patrick owned in Uggoon is the one which had been leased by Matthew McNamara at the time of Griffiths.

Kate returned to the US, in 1910, after a visit to her brother, Patrick, in Feakle. As you say, Patrick may not have been living in Feakle exactly, but maybe close to the border between Feakle and Tulla. All I can say is that her brother Patrick is not Patrick McNamara in Derryfadda, as his father is Thomas McNamara according to the record of his marriage.
Here is what I have on Patrick in Derryfadda:
Patrick McNamara, Derryfadda, son of Thomas McNamara, Farmer, deceased, married Bridget Rodgers, Dromin, daughter of Michael Rogers, Farmer, in Killenena Chapel, on 21st Feb. 1871; witnesses: Patrick McNamara, Mary Noone.
Caher Feakle Baptisms (more children were born after 1880):
1871: Mary of Patt Mack and Bridget Mack (not maiden name), Derryfadda; sponsors: Martin and Eliza Rodgers.
1873: Thomas Mack of Patrick Mack and Bridget Rodgers; sponsors: Michael Mac, Eliza Rodgers
1875: Michael Mack of Patrick Mack and Bridget Rodgers; sponsors: John Rodgers, Nancy Boland.
1880: Eliza of Patrick McNamara and Bridget Rodgers; sponsors: John Corry, Mary O’Dea.

1901: Patrick McNamara, aged 50, Farmer, and Bridget aged 50, and children: Winifred aged 14, Patrick aged 12 and Martin aged 10
1911: Patrick McNamara, aged 70, Farmer, and Bridget aged 69. Married 40 years, 9 children, 8 alive. Also Winifred McNamara aged 25, and Patrick McNamara aged 23.

1916 Death: Pat McNamara, Derryfadda, aged 73, married; informant: Pat McNamara, son of deceased.

Sheila

[Jimbo]

Sharon and Sheila, thanks again for your ongoing support in the search for the missing Thomas McNamara of Glandree. In my separate response to Sharon, I noted that Martin Francis McNamara of Washington D.C. was married to Maria Agnes Moroney (source 1937 obituary). Oddly enough given my ongoing discussion with Sheila, at the birth of their first child on 11 March 1893 the parents were listed as "Martin F. McNamara" and "Maria A. Cooney McNamara" both born in Ireland. From later obituaries, we know they were both born in County Clare as were the Moroney and O'Connor families of Washington D.C.

Sheila, yes! I now understand that Kate Cooney McNamara who died in 1904 at the age of 84 would have been too young to be the mother of the births in the 1830's with Patrick McNamara as the father. I believe this is another situation where a widower remarried, this time with a possible Cooney relative of his first wife. This was before the Catholic Church rules became more strict, as we discussed on page 7. Or perhaps during this time period the rules against marriage in the second degree of affinity were strictly enforced in Glandree, and that is why we can't find their marriage. Was another priest in a neighboring parish more willing to perform the marriage? Maybe for the right price, being cynical of course.

As far as the informant at the death of Catherine McNamara in 1904, named Mary McNamara, I believe she was most likely the daughter of Patrick and Catherine McNamara baptized on 17 May 1843. She is listed as "Mary" born to father "P McNamara" and mother "K Coree", with "J McNamara" as the sponsor. The priest may have used the initials "P" and "K" for the parents since "Patrick" and "Kate" would be the obvious names. There is no other "Kate Coree" married to a "Patrick McNamara", so I believe the difficult to read handwriting in the baptism register would actually be "K Conee" or some variation thereof for "Kate Cooney". This Mary McNamara born in 1843 would go on to marry Richard Nash in 1865. Her second born son would be named "Pat". Several of their children would go to New York, where likely further evidence will prove this theory.

At the baptisms of the children of Mary McNamara and Richard Nash, many of the sponsors appear to be the children of Martin McNamara and Bridget Foley. We know Martin died prior to 1856, and it is likely that he died at the height of the Great Famine in 1847. Thus, it is quite possible that the children of Martin could have had a close relationship with their uncle Patrick and his children; complete speculation of course as we have not proven that Martin and Patrick are brothers. Also, I believe Kate McNamara, the daughter of Martin McNamara born in 1839, may have married John Corbett in 1860. Again, several of their children went to New York where further evidence to prove this theory might be easy to find. There were two Corbett cousins with the two McNamara nurses arriving in New York on the 3 October 1907 on the SS Carmania, but I don't see a connection at the moment.

Patrick McNamara was a very common name for the sponsors of the Nash children. It would be good to find a son Patrick born to either Martin McNamara or Patrick McNamara in the missing baptism period of 1841. Perhaps this Patrick McNamara was still living in 1901?

I've updated the two family trees below to reflect the above speculation as it makes it easier when searching for further evidence:

4.0 Pat McNamara (1810 - 1901) <House 5, x>,

...Marriage to Nancy "Canney" of Gurteenaneelig on 1 March 1829 (witnesses Dennis Couney and Unknown Couney of Gurteenaneelig)

Nancy Cooney would have been born around 1810, prior to the Tulla baptism register starting in 1819. Matthew Cooney and Ann Moroney of Gurteenaneelig had a son Patrick in March 1820, and several more children through 1834. It is possible that they are the parents of Nancy, but I'm not sure how likely given the 24 year span of births.

...Children with mother Cooney whose name was never consistent:
............ 4.1 Pat McNamara (1831), mother "Nancy Canney"
............ 4.2 Patrick McNamara (1833), mother "Kate Couny"
............ 4.3 Michael McNamara (1836), mother "Anne Couney"
............ 4.4 Miles McNamara (1839), mother "Ann Couny" could be the first or second wife of Patrick
............ 4.? missing baptism page (1841), possible son Patrick??

...Undiscovered Marriage to Catherine Cooney (1820 - 1904) between 1839 (when Catherine was 19 years old) and 1843 (birth of daughter Mary). Catherine Cooney died in 1904 at the age of 84, either her daughter Mary McNamara Nash or daughter-in-law Mary Nash McNamara would have been the informant.

Catherine Cooney was possibly baptized in December 1820 as the unnamed Cooney child with parents James Cooney and Mary Molony of Gurtcumer, Tulla.

............ 4.5 Mary McNamara (1843 - after 1911), mother "K Coree", married Richard Nash (age 70 in 1901, died prior to 1911) on 16 January 1865 <House 28, House 32>
......................... 4.5.1 Michael Nash* (1866) <>
......................... 4.5.2 Patrick Nash (1868) <>
......................... 4.5.3 Richard Nash (1869), Johanna Cooney was sponsor, <House 28, House 32>,
......................... 4.5.4 Mary Nash (1872), to NY in 1907 (mother Mary Nash of Tulla), sister Annie?
......................... 4.5.5 Margaret Nash (1875) <>
......................... 4.5.6 Catherine Nash (1878) <>
......................... 4.5.? Annie Nash (?), possibly living at 184 West 11th Street, New York in 1907?

............ 4.6 Anne McNamara (1844), mother "Nance Couney"

............ 4.7 Michael McNamara (1845/1846 baptism not found; died in 1929, age of 84), at about 50 years old married Mary Nash (age 39 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.1 Patrick McNamara (age 14 in 1911) <House 28, House 32, with uncle Richard Nash>
......................... 4.7.2 Richard McNamara (age 14 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.3 Kate McNamara (age 12 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.4 Michael McNamara (age 10 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.5 John McNamara (age 8 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.6 Mary Ellen McNamara (age 5 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.7 James McNamara (age 3 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.8 Thomas McNamara (age 1 in 1911) <x, House 41>


3.0 Martin McNamara (1809 ? - prior to 1856) and Bridget Foley (1809 ? - Unknown)
............ 3.1 Mary McNamara (1829)
............ 3.2 Laurence McNamara (1831-1922) and Honora Moloney (- prior to 1901) <House 25, House 21>
......................... 3.2.1 Mary McNamara (1860)
......................... 3.2.2 Martin McNamara (1862)
......................... 3.2.3 Michael McNamara (1864) and Bridget (1877) <House 25, House 21>
......................................... 3.2.3.1 Nora McNamara (age 6 in 1911) <x, House 21>
......................................... 3.2.3.2 Lawrence McNamara (age 5 in 1911) <x, House 21>
......................................... 3.2.3.3 Kathleen McNamara (age 3 in 1911) <x, House 21>
......................................... 3.2.3.4 Mary McNamara (age 2 in 1911) <x, House 21>
......................................... 3.2.3.5 Stephen McNamara (age 0 in 1911) <x, House 21>
......................... 3.2.4 Ellen McNamara (1867)
......................... 3.2.5 James McNamara (1870)
......................... 3.2.6 Honora McNamara (1872)
......................... 3.2.7 Honora McNamara (1876)
............ 3.3 Margaret McNamara (1834)
............ 3.4 Martin McNamara (1836)
............ 3.5 Catherine McNamara (1839 - after 1911) of Glandree married John Corbett (died prior to 1901) on 13 January 1860 <Afflick House 10, House 9>
......................... 3.5.1 James Corbett (1863), sponsor (brother?) Laurence McNamara
......................... 3.5.2 John Corbett (1865), to brother Patrick in NY in 1908 (mother Catherine of Tulla)
......................... 3.5.3 Patrick Corbett (1868), in 1924 applied for U.S. Passport to return to Ireland to visit his mother; he had been living in U.S. since 1888; with wife Susan (age 26 in 1900, Irish)
......................................... 3.5.3.1 John Corbett (age 23 in 1920) <402 Sackett Street, Brooklyn>
......................................... 3.5.3.2 James Corbett (age 21 in 1920) <402 Sackett Street, Brooklyn>
......................................... 3.5.3.3 William Corbett (age 18 in 1920) <402 Sackett Street, Brooklyn>
......................................... 3.5.3.4 Anna Corbett (age 16 in 1920) <402 Sackett Street, Brooklyn>
......................................... 3.5.3.5 Martin E. Corbett (age 10 in 1920) <402 Sackett Street, Brooklyn>
......................... 3.5.4 William Corbett (1872), living at Sackett St, Brooklyn in 1900 with brother Patrick; arrived in USA in 1894
......................... 3.5.5 Martin Corbett (1874) <Afflick House 10, House 9> with wife Mary (age 35 in 1911) *
......................................... 3.5.5.1 Patrick Corbett (age 4 in 1911) <Afflick House 9>
......................................... 3.5.5.2 Kathleen Corbett (age 3 in 1911) <Afflick House 9>
......................................... 3.5.5.3 John Corbett (age 2 in 1911) <Afflick House 9>
......................................... Visitor, Frederick White (age 12 in 1911), born in USA
............ 3.? missing baptism page (1841), possible son Patrick? possible daughter Honora?
............ 3.6 Margaret McNamara (1842)
............ 3.7 Andrew McNamara (1843)
............ 3.8 Michael McNamara (1846)

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

The Mary McNamara who married Richard Nash was a daughter of Andrew McNamara. I sent to G.R.O. for the record of the marriage some time ago, but made a mistake in my application, so last week I made a fresh application and am awaiting a reply. But in the meantime I suddenly remembered that before civil records became viewable the usual way to find the fathers’ names of marriage partners (1864-1870) was by going to familysearch. So I entered McNamara, and for "Life Event" I clicked on "Marriage" and entered Tulla as Marriage Place and dates as 1864-1870. Among the few that I found was the marriage of Mary McNamara and Richard Nash in 1865, and, as I say, that tells us that her father was Andrew. The G.R.O. record will still be of interest, as it will give the address. If it is Uggoon, that will identify Andrew as the Andrew who was married to Bridget McNamara (rather than Andrew who was married to Margaret Clancy). The parish entry for the marriage tells us that the witnesses were Michael Noonan and Anne O’Hara, which is not much of a clue.
My apologies for not telling you about that familysearch record. I thought I would leave it until I got the address. But I see now that I could have saved you some work.

Jim, I don’t think you should decide, just yet, that Kate, who died in 1904, is Kate Couny.

Sheila

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

Here is my reason for my asking you to hold off on deciding the surname of Kate, who died in 1905, aged 84: As you know, your posting (at the bottom of page 11) had given me the impression that “young” Kate, the daughter of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley who was born 1853 and died in Washington D.C. in 1925, was connected to Patrick McNamara in Uggoon through her niece Mary, but since that posting we have found “young” Kate (1853 – 1925) is not connected to Patrick in Uggoon after all. So when she visited in 1903, it’s just possible that it was “old” Kate (1821-1905) she was visiting. Can you check and see if the ship’s manifest for the trip Kate McNamara made in 1903 gives any more details, please?
I suspect that the Kate McNamara, who left Feakle in 1910, having visited her brother Patrick there, is a different Kate McNamara. Yes, I know that she gives a Mrs. O’Connor, 307 15th St., Washington D.C. as the person she is going to, but are you sure this is Winifred?

In short, I’m preparing the way for reinstating “old” Kate (1821-1905) as a candidate for Kate Foley after all - it’s just a possibility.

Sheila

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

I’ve been looking at Tom McDowell’s list of emigrants for Feakle parish. And I see the entry for Kate McNamara who was going her sister, Mrs. O’Connor, 307, 15th Street, Washington D.C., having visited her brother, Patrick McNamara, Feakle. And I think you are probably right in saying that Mrs. O’Connor is Winifred, and so Kate is the Kate who died in 1925 and whose parents are Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley.
My doubts about her receded when I noted that Thomas McNamara (see the Tulla list), who went to his brother John in Pittsburg earlier that year (Apr. 1910), gave his address as Glendree, Feakle. His parents were Patrick McNamara and Kate McMahon. I decided that, because their farm (plot 24 in Griffith’s) was close to the border with Feakle parish, they might have considered Feakle to be their nearest town.

Here is an interesting entry in the Feakle list: John McNamara going to his sister, Mary, St. Elizabeth Hospital, Washington D.C. on 3rd May 1901. He gives his age as 22 (b. 1879). He is not the same John as the John in the Tulla list, who was a son of Patrick McNamara in Uggoon, who was going to his sister, Mary, in Washington D.C., but changed his mind. The John in Uggoon gives his age in 1909 as 25 (b. 1884), whereas the John in Feakle gives his aged in 1901 as 22 (b. 1879).

The Feakle list shows a Delia McNamara, born in Feakle, last residence: Pittsburg P.A., returning from Feakle in 1907, aged 23 (b. 1884). Her father is Patrick McNamara, Derryfadda, Feakle, and she is going to Aunt, Mrs. O’Donnell, 307, West 47th Street, New York (Delia was born in 1883 to Patrick McNamara and Bridget Rogers, Derryfadda). I don’t see a corresponding entry for her cousin, Mary McNamara, but your posting says that Mary was 24, and I assume that 24 is close to her real age - Delia’s is exactly right. Mary gives Patrick McNamara, Glendree, as her contact in Ireland. We know that she is not the daughter of Patrick McNamara, Uggoon (b. 1872), so she may be a daughter of Patrick McNamara and Ellen McMahon, or a daughter of Patrick McNamara and Kate McMahon.

I have looked at the children of both of these Patricks:
According to the 1911 census, Patrick and Ellen had 10 children, 9 of whom were still alive. I found 10 children (baptism records for the first three and civil records for the other 7): Margaret b. 1875, Andrew b. 1877, Michael b. 1879, Anne b. 1882, John b. 1885, Patrick b. 1887, Mathew b. 1889, Ellen b. 1893, Dennis b. ?, Bridget (Delia) b. 1898. As you see there is no Mary among those children, which is a bit unusual.

It is not so easy to decide how many children Patrick and Kate had, as Patrick was a widower in 1911 and was not expected to give the number of children born to him. Their children were born between 1878 and 1894 (when Kate died aged 40): John b. 1878*, Kate b. 1880, Katie b. 1884, Patrick b. 1886 – died 1889, Martin b. 1888, Thomas b. 1890*, Winifred b. 1891, Helena (Ellen) b.1894. Again there is no Mary, which again is a bit unusual.
I notice that there is a gap between the birth of the first Kate in 1880 and the second Kate in 1884 – but I don’t think we should shoehorn a Mary in there - not without evidence.

*John and Thomas emigrated to Pittsburgh, P.A. (Tom McDowell’s list for Tulla). Thomas gives his address as Glendree, Feakle - not Glendree, Tulla.

Sheila

[Jimbo]

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for correcting that the Mary McNamara who married Richard Nash was not a daughter of Martin McNamara. Her father Andrew will most certainly be the Andrew Sheedy McNamara married to Margaret Clanchy given her 1843 birth. This also makes the most sense given the sponsors at their children's baptisms. Likewise the two Glandree married couples from your last posting (Patrick McNamara & Kate McMahon as well as Patrick McNamara & Ellen McMahon) are most securely in the "Sheedy McNamara" camp and unfortunately won't be the solution to our puzzle.

I think I've sorted most of it out. On the 1907 passenger list, Mary McNamara and Delia McNamara were reported as first cousins, not due to their separate Patrick McNamara fathers, but because their mothers were two Rodgers sisters. I will not speculate if the fathers of the two Patrick McNamara's (Patrick and Thomas) are related. Sheila, I don't need to tell you how common a name McNamara is in County Clare. However, I did find that John McNamara, the brother of Winifred and Kate of Washington D.C., died unexpectedly in 1902 in Pittsburgh, his body was brought back to Washington D.C. for the funeral. The grandchildren of the unknown Thomas McNamara left County Clare to live in Pittsburgh. So perhaps there is a connection with Thomas?

I also found the missing brother Patrick that Kate McNamara visited in 1910. He was somewhat hidden in the 1901 Census records. The Caher Feakle baptism records as you noted include children of Patt Mack and Bridget Rodgers of Derryfadda. It was really confusing how they could be the same Patrick and Bridget McNamara living in Derryfodda, Killanenna in the 1901 census (Derryfadda in 1911) as I had concluded. According to my google searches Derryfadda was a townland at the Limerick border. Killanenna is far to the west of Tulla. Going back again I read the original census enumerator's abstract that states "Townland: Derryfadda; Barony: Tulla Upper; Parish: Feakle". It would be very helpful if the NLI census website had an advanced search by Parish. For someone like me who is not familiar with the geography it would be difficult to know that the DED Killanenna is in fact in Feakle and appears to be on the border with Glandree. Anyways, this led to the discovery of Patrick McNamara (age 70 in 1901; age 71 in 1911) living in Gortaveha, Killanena, who I believe is the brother of Kate McNamara that she went to visit in 1910. On google maps "Gortavoher" lies between Glendree and Feakle and is about 3 miles from each.

I've left for another day how the three daughters of James McNamara and Margaret Bowles (Sarah, Emily, Margaret) living in Washington D.C. are related to Kate McNamara (who went on a trip in 1903 back to Ireland with Mrs. Margaret McNamara Bond) or Kate's niece Mary McNamara (Sarah, her cousin, was bridesmaid at her wedding in 1913).

And of course this now begs the question if the missing Civil War soldier Thomas McNamara of Glandree may actually have been born in what is known as "Glandree, Feakle"? A more thorough search of the Killanena records of Caher Feakle parish might prove promising.

4.0 Pat McNamara (1810 - 1901) <House 5, x>,

...Marriage to Nancy "Canney" (1810 - prior to 1846) of Gurteenaneelig on 1 March 1829 (witnesses Dennis Couney and Unknown Couney of Gurteenaneelig). Nancy Canney would also go by Anne Cooney and Kate Cooney.

Nancy Cooney would have been born around 1810, prior to the Tulla baptism register starting in 1819. Matthew Cooney and Ann Moroney of Gurteenaneelig had a son Patrick in March 1820, and several more children through 1834. It is possible that they are the parents of Nancy, but I'm not sure how likely given the 24 year span of births.

... Children with Nancy/Anne/Kate, maiden name Canney/Couney:
............ 4.1 Pat McNamara (1831), mother "Nancy Canney"
............ 4.2 Pat McNamara (1833; age 71 in 1901; age 72 in 1911), mother "Kate Couny". <Gortaveha, Killanenna House 5, House 2>. Gortaveha is in Feakle Parish.

....................... Marriage to Margaret Rodgers (age 60 in 1901, died prior to 1911) on 19 January 1855 in Caher Feakle Parish <Gortaveha, Killanenna House 5, x>. Based upon 1855 marriage her birth is most likely about 1835. OPEN: where are baptism records for below children to confirm that mother is Margaret Rodgers who married Pat McNamara in 1855?

......................... 4.2.? Probable other births between 1855 and 1874.
......................... 4.2.2 Bridget McNamara (age 26 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
......................... 4.2.3 Michael McNamara (age 24 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
......................... 4.2.4 John McNamara (age 22 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, House 2> married Anne (age 40).
......................................... Note: John was on SS Germanic on 3 May 1901 to sister Mary at St Elizabeths Hospital in Washington DC (OPEN: need to confirm with original record)
......................................... 4.2.4.1 John McNamara (age 4 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
......................................... 4.2.4.2 Patrick McNamara (age 3 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
......................................... 4.2.4.3 Michael McNamara (age 1 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
......................... 4.2.5 Margaret McNamara (age 20 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
......................... 4.2.6 Mary McNamara (born 1882 in 1900 passenger list), in 1900 to Aunt Kate McNamara (4.10) at St Elizabeths Hospital in Washington DC. Returned to Ireland for visit in 1907 with first cousin Delia McNamara (see below Rodgers family, mothers were likely sisters). Married Richard T. Bennett on 30 June 1913. He also worked at St Elizabeths Hospital (WWI Rego & WWII Rego).
......................................... 4.2.6.1 Richard Thomas Bennett (age 16 in 1930)
......................................... 4.2.6.2 Joseph McNamara Bennett (age 14 in 1930)
......................................... 4.2.6.3 Paul Martin Bennett (age 11 in 1930)
......................................... 4.2.6.4 Emmett Francis Bennett (age 9 in 1930)
......................................... 4.2.6.5 Mary Catherine Bennett (age 4 in 1930)

............ 4.3 Michael McNamara (1836), mother "Anne Couney"
............ 4.4 Miles McNamara (1839), mother "Ann Couny"
............ 4.? missing baptism page (1841)
............ 4.5 Mary McNamara (1843), mother "K Coree",
............ 4.6 Anne McNamara (1844), mother "Nance Couney"
...Marriage to Kate "Margaret" Foley in February 1846 (possible daughter of Pat Foley and Mary McMahon born 1819)
...Children with wife Kate Foley (1820 - 1904):
............ 4.7 Michael McNamara (1847 - 1929, age of 84) at about 50 years old married Mary Nash (age 39 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.1 Patrick McNamara (age 14 in 1911) <House 28, House 32, with uncle Richard Nash>
......................... 4.7.2 Richard McNamara (age 14 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.3 Kate McNamara (age 12 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.4 Michael McNamara (age 10 in 1911) <House 5, House 41>
......................... 4.7.5 John McNamara (age 8 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.6 Mary Ellen McNamara (age 5 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.7 James McNamara (age 3 in 1911) <x, House 41>
......................... 4.7.8 Thomas McNamara (age 1 in 1911) <x, House 41>
............ 4.8 Martin McNamara (1848 - prior to 1857)
............ 4.9 Winifred McNamara (1851 - 1915, Washington D.C.) married Mr. O'Connor who died young,
......................... 4.9.1 John F. O'Connor (1879 in Washington D.C.)
......................... 4.9.2 Julia C. O'Connor (1881 in Washington D.C.)
............ 4.10 Catherine McNamara (1853 - 1925, Washington D.C), worked at St Elizabeths Hospital, Washington D.C.; trips back to Ireland in 1903 and 1910.
............ 4.11 John McNamara (1855 - 1902, Pittsburgh). Obituary: Suddenly, at Pittsburg, PA, October 12, 1902, John McNamara, beloved brother of Mrs. W. O'Connor. Funeral at sister's residence, 471 L Street NW, Washington DC (Evening Star, 14 October 1902)
............ 4.12 Martin McNamara (1857 - about 1939, Washington D.C.) married Mary Florence Tyne on 15 April 1890 in Washington D.C.
......................... 4.12.1 Mary E. McNamara (1869 in Washington D.C.), assistant illustrator at the Dept of Agriculture in 1939 City Directory
............ 4.13 Thomas McNamara (1861 - 1928, Washington D.C.), will update another day


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Rodgers Family Tree:

Michael Rodgers of Dromin was married to Winnifred Nee prior to the 1842 Caher Feakle marriage register. Daughter Margaret who married in 1855 would have been born around 1835, and therefore also not in the Caher Feakle baptism register that starts in 1842. Her younger siblings were recorded:

1.0 Margaret Rodgers (age 60 in 1901, died prior to 1911) married Patrick McNamara (1833; age 71 in 1901; age 72 in 1911, son of Patrick McNamara, on 19 January 1855 in Caher Feakle Parish <Gortaveha, Killanenna House 5, 2>

OPEN: where are baptism records for below children to confirm that mother is Margaret Rodgers who married Pat McNamara in 1855?
............ 1.? Probable other births between 1855 and 1874.
............ 1.1 Bridget McNamara (age 26 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
............ 1.2 Michael McNamara (age 24 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
............ 1.3 John McNamara (age 22 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, House 2> married Anne (age 40).
..................Note: John was on SS Germanic on 3 May 1901 to sister Mary at St Elizabeths Hospital in Washington DC (OPEN: need to confirm with original record & timing of Irish census)
......................... 1.3.1 John McNamara (age 4 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
......................... 1.3.2 Patrick McNamara (age 3 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
......................... 1.3.3 Michael McNamara (age 1 in 1911) <x, Gortaveha House 2>
............ 1.4 Margaret McNamara (age 20 in 1901) <Gortaveha House 5, x>
............ 1.5 Mary McNamara (born 1882 in 1900 passenger list), in 1900 to Aunt Kate McNamara (4.10 in McNamara family tree) at St Elizabeths Hospital in Washington DC; returned to Ireland for visit in 1907 with first cousin Delia McNamara (2.5) as their Rodgers mothers were sisters.

?.? Rodgers daughter who became "Aunt Mrs. O'Donnell" of 307 W. 47th Street, New York City?

2.0 Bridget Rodgers of Dromin (baptized 22 June 1848; age 50 in 1901; age 69 in 1911) married Patrick McNamara (age 50 in 1901; age 70 in 1911) of Derryfadda, son of Thomas McNamara (deceased), on 21 February 1871 at Killenena Chapel <Derryfodda House 5, Derryfadda House 1>
............ 2.1 Mary McNamara (10 Nov 1871) <x, x>
............ 2.2 Thomas McNamara (23 Mar 1873), arriving in NYC on SS Teutonic on 30 May 1895 (age 22)
............ 2.3 Michael McNamara (16 May 1875) <x, x>
............ 2.4 Eliza McNamara (25 July 1880) <domestic servant?, x>, arriving in NYC on SS Oceanic on 12 October 1904 (age 23), to uncle John Rodgers at 1129 Rush Street, Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, PA (transcription states Rhode Island)
............ 2.5 Bridget "Delia" McNamara (1883), on SS Campania returning to Pittsburg PA in 1907 with cousin Mary McNamara (1.5) of Washington DC
............ 2.6 Winifred McNamara (age 14 in 1901) <Derryfodda House 5, 1>
............ 2.7 Patrick McNamara (age 12 in 1901) <Derryfodda House 5, 1>
............ 2.8 Martin McNamara (age 10 in 1901) <Derryfodda House 5, x>
............ 2.9 Unknown McNamara (in 1911, parents reported 9 children, 8 survived)

3.0 John Rodgers (1858 - 1859)

4.0 John Rodgers (1859), niece Eliza McNamara had as contact when arriving in NYC in 1904; his residence was 1129 Rush Street, Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim,

Yes, the DEDs are an added complication. I would advise anyone looking for a townland to go to the Townland Index in Support Services: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... wnland.htm. That shows the various different townlands (there’s often a couple with the same name), and shows which parish each townland belongs to and which D.E.D.. What it does not tell you is which Catholic parish the townland belongs to – the reason, I think, is that the Catholic parishes were still evolving during the 19th century. The townland of Derryfadda lies within civil parish of Feakle, the Catholic parish of Caher Feakle, and the D.E.D. of Killanena (one of the registration districts in Tulla Union). A slight extra complication is that there was another “unofficial” Derryfadda, which was an area lying within the townland of Tyredagh in Tulla parish – you will see this in the Tithes Applotmen Books. The Derryfadda/Derrafada/Derradda that you see under “Residence” in the Tulla baptisms refers to this area within Tyredagh townland.

Jim, the Margaret aged 60, in House 5, Gortaveha (Killanenna DED), is Margaret Collins – not Margaret Rodgers. Caher Feakle marriages show that Patt McNamara married Margaret Collins, Killinena, on 21 Feb. 1870; witnesses: Martin Mack, Michael Collins. Unfortunately, I can’t find the civil record of the marriage.
These births of their children match the children in Gortaveha in 1901:
29.06.1871: Baptism of Bridget of Patt Mack and Margaret Collins, Gurtaveha; sponsor: Honora McAllen. (Caher Feakle baptisms 1861-1873 – also civil records).
05.11.1876: Baptism of Margaret of Pat McNamara and Margaret Cooleen, (O Coilean is Irish for Collins), Gurthaveha; sponsors: Ned O’Donnell, Bridget McAllen.
28.04.1874: Birth of Michael McNamara to Patrick McNamara and Margaret Collins, Gurthaveha (civil records)
03.05.1875: Birth of John McNamara to Patrick McNamara and Margaret Collins, Gurthaveha. (civil records).

Jim, as you know, I don’t go along with you theory that Anne/Nancy Couney is the same person as Kate Couney, and I am not at all convinced that Pat McNamara (aged 91 in 1901) married both Kate Couney and Kate Foley, although I know that it is possible, of course. We have two Kates in Glendree to account for. One died in 1887, aged 65; informant: Kate McNamara. The other died in 1905, aged 84, informant: Mary McNamara. It’s clear that the second Kate is the wife of Pat (aged 91) - and I still insist that we don’t know her surname. But here is my question: who is the other Kate? We need a home for her.

The work you have done on the children of Patrick McNamara and Bridget Rogers, Derryfadda, seems good. I haven’t looked into the rest of that Rodgers family tree you have created (the siblings of Bridget), but I agree that the Uncle John Rodgers, to whom Eliza (b. 1880) goes in 1904 (aged 23), must be a brother of Bridget.

Sheila

[Jimbo]

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for your feedback. Progress is being made, especially with the discovery of Killanenna being in Feakle. It will probably seem so simple when completely solved.

Andrew McNamara and Bridget (perhaps Sheedy) McNamara had a son Patrick born in 1820 who is a widower in the 1901 Census living in Glendree House 17. His wife was Catherine Corry who would be a perfect fit for the 1887 death record of a 65 year old woman. Patrick, Jr married Kate McMahon who is the likely informant on the 1887 death record. Kate McMahon McNamara died prior to the 1901 Census, but she and Pat, Jr had a daughter Helena in 1895, so she was still alive at the time of her mother-in-law's death in 1887.

I'm going to ignore the "niece" Mary McNamara of Washington DC today.

I think we need to focus on the brother Patrick McNamara of Feakle that Kate was visiting in 1910. Although married to Margaret Collins and not to Margaret Rodgers, this Patrick is the perfect age as well as location in Gortaveha in Feakle to be the brother of Kate McNamara of Washington D.C.

I will also concede that there could be two Patrick McNamara's: one married to Nancy/Anne Cooney and a separate fellow married to Kate Cooney. They both had sons named Patrick in 1831 and 1833. In this scenario, I believe our Patrick (the father of Kate of Washington DC) was married to Nancy/Anne Cooney and thus had the Patrick born in 1831 (the half-brother of Kate of Washington DC).

According to the 1901 for Gortaveha, Patrick McNamara was age 70 so is a good fit to be the Patrick born in 1831. But did this Patrick really wait around until he was 39 years old to marry Margaret Collins? In the Caher Feakle marriage register, there are two interesting marriages with a Patrick McNamara involving the Rodgers family:

1) On 11 January 1849, a Patt McNamara married Ellen Rodgers, no location, sponsors (?) Rodgers and John McNamara. Patrick born in 1831 would be 18, so still a possibility. If born in 1833, not so likely.

2) On 19 January 1855, a Patt(?) married Margaret Rodgers, location Liss, sponsors Batt Rodgers and James McNamara.

Unfortunately, I cannot find any children born to the two marriages for Patrick McNamara involving a Rodgers bride, but the Rodgers connection is interesting in light of the Delia McNamara (cousin to Mary McNamara of Washington DC) born to Bridget Rodgers and Patrick McNamara (son of Thomas McNamara). It would have been entirely possible, for the Patrick McNamara and Ellen Rodgers married in 1849 to have a son named Patrick in 1851 who would marry in the 1870's and have a daughter named Mary McNamara who immigrated to Washington D.C. In this case this Mary would be the grand niece of Kate McNamara of Washington D.C., but still probably called a "niece". This is all conjecture of course as I can't find any children. The Patrick McNamara of Gortaveha has an unaccounted for period of his adult life between 1850 and his marriage in 1870.

I looked in the Caher Feakle marriage/baptism register as well as DED Killanenna in the Census records for other options who the Patrick McNamara of Feakle could be that Kate visited in 1910. This option isn't bad:

On 23 February 1852, Pat Mac married Mary Smyth, location Faha, sponsors John Mac and Ned Nugent per Caher Feakle marriage register. In the 1901 Census, this couple appear to be the Patrick McNamara (age 81, born 1820) and Mary (age 70, born 1831) living in Knocknahane, Killanenna - this is also in Feakle Parish. This couple had at least 8 children between 1853 and 1879. I believe they may be exaggerating their ages in the 1901 census which is supported by the 1911 Census with Mary McNamara being only age 72 (born 1839). If Patrick McNamara also exaggerated his age in 1901, he could be the son of Patrick McNamara and Nancy Couney born in 1831. Mary is a widow in 1911. Did her husband die shortly before the census, and that is why sister Kate McNamara was visiting from Washington D.C. in 1910?

Another option is that Kate's older brother was not born in 1831, but Patrick McNamara and Nancy Couney could have had a son Patrick born in the missing baptism pages of 1841 and 1843. Killanenna DED would still be a good option for this Patrick to live in 1910 especially since all the Patrick McNamara's of Glandree have been accounted for. But research for another day.

Perhaps the best line of research is not to ignore the niece Mary McNamara of St Elizabeths Hospital of Washington D.C. And determine who was her brother John McNamara (born 1879) who was visiting her on the 3 May 1901. His father would be Patrick, same as sister Mary, but where are his parents located in the 1901 census? And what happened to John McNamara in Washington D.C.?

[Jimbo]

Hi Sheila,

I had a quick look at Pittsburgh records and they are pointing me into a new direction - I think this is the direction you've been at for awhile now?

The Patrick, Sr (age 82) in Glendree House 17 married Kate Foley in 1846. The mysterious 1847 birth of a Patrick that we thought might be Michael of House 5, is indeed a Patrick and he is the 52 year old Patrick who married Kate McMahon. All the other siblings moved to Washington D.C. This is the Patrick McNamara of Glandree Feakle that sister Kate McNamara of Washington D.C. visited in 1910. Patrick McNamara and Kate McMahon may have had a daughter Mary born around 1882 that went to Washington D.C. to her Aunt Kate prior to 1901 Census; this is the father "Patrick" she visited in 1907. The John McNamara (born 1882) who arrived in New York to his sister Mary at St Elizabeths Insane Asylum is also on the 1901 census as an 18 year old. I believe this John would end up in Pittsburgh along with his brother Thomas. When Thomas McNamara (born in 1892, but 10 years in the census?) died in 1966 in Pittsburgh, his daughter stated that his parents were "Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley" - obviously a mistake and she reported his grandparents? When brother John McNamara of Pittsburgh died in 1945, his father was reported as "Patrick McNamara", and mother as "Mary" which should have stated "Kate McMahon".

For the Patrick McNamara (age 91) married to a Kate (age 79) in Glendree House 5 will reconsider another day. But I'm thinking that Kate Cooney and Catherine Corry might be one individual?

Thanks for your help and feedback!

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

Yes, that second posting of yours is in line with my own line of thinking. I did not want to shoehorn a Mary into the children of Patrick McNamara and Kate McMahon without some evidence, but I think the circumstantial evidence may suffice: The John who went to his sister Mary in St. Elizabeth Hospital on 3rd Mary 1901, giving his aged as 22 and his address as Feakle, may have been the John who was born to Patrick and Kate in 1878, and, if so, he is still at home, on census night (March 31st) aged 22 (House 17). Tom McDowell put him in the Feakle list – naturally enough – but I think John gave Feakle as his address because it was the nearest town.
Maybe the "brother Patrick McNamara, Feakle” that Kate was visiting in 1910 was Patrick (Junior) who is aged 52 in 1901 (House 17). If that was her brother, then Patrick Senior, aged 82 in 1901, was her father. He had died on 29 May 1906, aged 85; informant Patt McNamara son of deceased, Glendree. Winifred McMahon* died in Glandree in June 1901, widow, aged 86: informant: Kate McNamara, granddaughter of deceased, Glendree. This Kate who reported the death of Winifred was a daughter of Patrick (Junior). She is aged 16 in 1901.
*Winifred was Kate McMahon's mother and probably came to help with the children after her daughter died in 1894.
If we are right in thinking that Patrick Senior was married to Kate Foley, then she must be the Kate who died in 1887, and the Kate, who reported the death, must be her daughter-in-law, Kate McMahon. She is given as “daughter” in the record, but I think it was not uncommon for daughter-in-laws to describe themselves to the Registrar as “daughter”. We already have the example of Anne Halpin, the widow of Matthew McNamara, who described herself as daughter when she reported the death of Matthew’s mother, Bridget McNamara, in 1883. And I firmly believe that the Mary, who described herself as daughter when she reported the death of Catherine McNamara in 1905, was Mary Nash, Catherine’s daughter-in-law.
Anyway, if all of that can hang together, we can say that Patrick aged 82 in 1901 (House 17) was the husband of Kate McMahon. And those US newspaper reports and US records you found are the glue essential to that hanging together.

Now, look at the Griffith’s map for Glendree and you will see that the farm belonging to this family of McNamaras (plot 24) is quite close to the border with Feakle. (Magherabaun townland is in Feakle parish). And you will see that the farm of John Bowles (Plot 28) is nearby, but John Bowles did not live on that land. He lived in a house in Plot 26. It is marked with a lower case ‘b’. You will see that it is very close to the house of Patrick McNamara in plot 24. Patrick's is marked with a lower case ‘a’. Between these two houses, is the house of Denis Molony who held plots 26 and 27. Denis Molony’s house is marked with a lower case ‘a’.
There are two John Bowles in the baptism records. I think one is the father of the other. Note the baptism, on 04.07.1819, of Ambrose Bowles of John Bowles and Honora Moloney. I suspect that this Honora had some bearing on John Bowles having a house in Denis Moloney's farm. And I think the Ambrose Bowles (b. 1819) may have been the last of the children of John Bowles and Honora Moloney. I think that the John Bowles and Ellen Foley, who had children baptised between 1842 and 1853, belong to the next generation. One of these children was called Ambrose (b. 1848). For some reason none of the sons of John and Ellen took over the farm. Their daughter, Margaret, married James McNamara (from where?) in 1871, and the farm transferred to him. James and Margaret named one of their sons Ambrose (b. 1898). The 1921 Rate Book shows that James was still alive and the owner of Plot 28 plus the house in Plot 26. Their son Ambrose (b. 1898) married in 1940 – the civil record gives his address as Glendree.

James McNamara, who married Margaret Bowles, was not a brother of Patrick McNamara in plot 24. The civil record of the marriage of James and Margaret, in 1871, shows that his father was James McNamara. But it’s very possible that the Ellen Foley, who was Margaret’s mother, was related to the Kate Foley, who we believe (now) was wife of Patrick Senior. Such a relationship might explain Mary McNamara describing Sarah McNamara as a cousin. They may have been second cousins, rather than first cousins. Margaret Bowles was born in 1850 to John Bowles and Ellen Foley. Maybe she was a first cousin of Catherine McNamara (b. 1853 to Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley) and also of Patrick (Junior) aged 52 in 1901. That would mean that Patrick Junior’s daughter, Mary, was a second cousin of Margaret’s daughter, Sarah.

It appears, from what you have found, that all of the children of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley went to Washington D.C. and to Pittsburgh P.A., except Patrick Junior who remained at home. But Patrick Senior may be related, in some way, to Patrick in Derryfadda. Or, as you suspect, the relationship may be through the Rodgers. I haven’t addressed your previous posting all about the Rodgers – I will come back to it another time.

I am beginning to wonder more and more about Michael McNamara and his wife, Bridget McNamara, and their children (baptised between 1827 and 1848). There seems to be no trace of them in any of the records we have found. We dispatched Thomas McNamara and his wife Margaret Hawkins to Canada, very conveniently. It seems a bit excessive to dispatch Michael and Bridget also.

Sheila

[Sduddy]

Hi Jim

About the proximity of the McNamaras in plot 24 to Feakle: I looked at the Geohive publicviewer: http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html and selected the 25 inch map, which was made between 1888 and 1913, and saw that a new road was cut, which made going to Feakle much easier than going to Tulla. It went through Patrick McNamara’s farm (horizontally).

Jim, I remembered that I had come upon a Bridget McNamara some time ago - she may be a daughter of Patrick McNamara and Kate Foley - but it’s also possible that she is a daughter of Patrick McNamara and Catherine Corry. Here is what I have for Bridget:
Bridget McNamara, Glendree, aged 19, daughter of Pat McNamara, married William Hassett, Carpenter, Cragroe, son of Michael Hassett, deceased, in 1871, in Tulla chapel; witnesses: James Lyddy, Mary Nugent.
Baptism records for their children:
09.12.1871: Sarah Hassett; sponsors: Patrick White, Catherine Mack
11.02.1873: Patrick Hassett; sponsors: Margaret Hawkins, Patrick McNamara.
24.06.1874: John Hassett; sponsors: John McNamara, Ellen McNamara

William died in 1874, aged 35, and Bridget married again, in 1875, this time to Patrick Connors, Cragroe: Bridget Hassett alias Mack, Cragroe, Carpenter’s widow, daughter of Patrick Mack, Farmer, married Pat Connors, Cragroe, Mason, son of Michael Connors, deceased, in Tulla chapel, on 6 Nov. 1875.
Their children are:
27.09.1876: Margaret Connors; sponsors: Michael Connell, Margaret Connors (Baptism)
19.08.1878: Catherine Connors*; sponsors; Denis Howard, Mary Connors (Baptism).
17.07.1880: Michael Connors*; sponsors: John Mack, Anne Mack (Baptism)
10.02.1885: John (Birth)
23.10.1884: Martin (Birth)
? Patrick (listed in Emigrants from Tulla)
06.09.1890: Bridget (Delia) Connors (Birth).

1901: Cragroe: Patrick O’Connor, aged 56, and Bridget aged 49, and children: Katie aged 21, Michael aged 19, John aged 15, Martin aged 13 and Delia aged 9.

1911: Cragroe: Patrick Connors, aged 69, and Bridget aged 61, and son John aged 26, and grandson Patrick Minogue** .Bridget and Patrick had 8 children, 7 of whom are alive in 1911.

Tom McDowell’s emigrants:
Michael O’Connor, b. 1873 (aged 28), Cragroe, Tulla, went to his sister Mrs. Corrigan, 246, East 46th Street, New York, in Sept. 1901.
Margaret O’Connor, b. 1880 (aged 21), Cragroe, went to her sister, Mrs. Corrigan, 246, East 46th Street, New York, in Sept 1901.
Pat O’Connor, b. 1890 (aged 18); father: Pat O’Connor, Cragroe, Tulla, went to his sister Mary O’Connor, 331 East 33rd Street, New York, in 1908.
Delia O’Connor, b. 1890 (aged 18), daughter of Pat O’Connor, Cragroe, went to her sister Mary O’Connor, 331, East 33rd Street, New York, in 1908
Martin O’Connor, b. 1888 (aged 19) – incorrect manifest.

*Katie Connors, Cragroe, daughter of Patrick Connors, married Daniel Minogue, Tulla, Smith, son of Patrick Minogue, on 21 Nov. 1904; witnesses: John Donohue, Delia Connors.
**Patrick Minogue was born to Daniel Minogue, Blacksmith, and Kate Connors, on 30 Dec. 1905, in Hurdleston, registration district: Bridgetown, Limerick Union.

John O’Connor, Cragroe, Builder, son of Patrick O’Connor, Builder, married Julia Hobbins, Clondanna, Tulla, daughter of Joseph Hobbins, in Drumcharley chapel, on 17 July 1920; witnesses: Joseph Lawlor, Mary Kate Hobbins.

I found no records for the 3 Hassett children.

Sheila