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Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Wed May 25, 2016 5:42 pm

I have started work on a particular strand of Considines which leads back to Silvy and Patt Considine, listed in the Tithe Applotment Books as occupying land in Shalee, Kilnamona.
I believe Daniel Considine, Kilgobban/Kilgobbin, Clooney (Quin), was one descendant, and the Electoral Register for Ennis Polling District, 1866, shows that he continued to hold some land in Ballynabinna, Kilnamona (along with his farm in Kilgobban).
The report of the funeral of his grandson, Joe Considine, who was killed in the War of Independence, aged only 20, was published in the Clare Champion on August 12th, 1922, and reads like a mini-family tree, but some of those mentioned as uncles and aunts are really uncles-in-law and aunts-in-law. I have extracted the part of the report that lists the chief mourners. Note that the men are listed before the women. This indicates a transitional stage between mentioning male mourners, only, and the inclusion of female mourners.
I am hoping to find more descendants of Silvy and Patt – I am sure Daniel had siblings and cousins - the name “Sylvester” may be a key.

On Saturday morning, June 20th, Requiem Mass was celebrated at Clooney Church for the repose of his soul. Rev. Canon Slattery was celebrant, Rev. J. Hennessy, deacon, and Rev. J. Quinn, sub-deacon. Father Gavin, P.P., Tubber, was master of ceremonies; Father Breen, P.P., Ruan; Father Neylon, C.C., Ruan,; Father Patrick, O.F.M., and Father O’Dea, C.C., Sixmilebridge were also present. The Chief mourners were Mr. and Mrs. J. Considine (parents), Dilly (sister), Paddy, Dan, and Dermot (brothers). Pat Duggan, Tom Dugan and Miceal Duggan, Rev. Bro. Vincent, De la Salle, Bagnalstown; Syvester and John Considine, Kilgobbin, Pat Daffy, Crusheen, and Tom Frost Sixmilebridge (uncles); Mrs. T. Duggan, Verdant Hill, Mrs. P. Duggan, Moyreisk, Mrs. Syl. Considine, Kilgobbin, Mrs. Daly, Dysart, Mrs. O’Keeffe, Darragh, Mrs. P. Daffy, Crusheen and Mrs. M. Duggan (aunts); Biddy, Peg, Chris, Michael and John Duggan, Moyriesk; Dannie, Paddy, Mary Kate, Nell and Rosie Considine, Kilgobbin; Paddy and Gretta Considine, Fountain; Delia Considine, Ennis; Willie, Michael and Paddy Daly, Cloontohil; Dan, May, and Norah O’Keeffe, Darragh, Dan and Patrick Daffy, Crusheen; Mr. and Mrs. Michael Neylon, Ennis; Paddy, Molly, and Peggy Neylon, Ennis; Mr. and Mrs. Molony, Carrphan House; Matty, May and Tim Molony, do; Master Ml. and Jas. Molony, do.; Mr. and Mrs. J. Malone, Feakle; Thady Malone, do; Mr. and Mrs. Walshe, Cragroe; Pat Minogue, Feakle; Georgina and Mary Frost, Sixmilebridge; Mr. and Mrs. J. Fitzgerald, do; Mr. and Mrs. James Frost, do; Mr. and Mrs. John Frost, Feenagh; John and Ned Duggan, Kilkishen; Pat Frost, do; Bob Frost, do; Margaret Frost, do; Miss A. O’Neill, Newmarket; Mrs. Fahy, Dublin; Mr. and Mrs. P. Clune, Ballymaclune; Mr. W. Clune, N.T., Ballinruane; Mary and Mrs. Cusack, Ballyblood; James and Mrs. O’Driscoll, Broadford; Mr. and Mrs. W. Arthur, Barefield; W. Hanrahan, Ennis; Ml., Mary and Nell Enright, Cragleigh (cousins).

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sat May 28, 2016 7:44 am

Sorry, there is no "transition". The men were not listed before the women - it's just that couples were divided into "Uncles" and "Aunts" and the uncles were listed first.

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:46 pm

I’ve done a bit of work which may be of interest to somebody:
Daniel Considine, Kilgobbin, Clooney(Quin), (1810 – 1890) and his wife Kate Gavin, had eleven children. Daniel leased a farm in Fountain, Drumcliff, in the 1860s and divided it between his two older sons, Patrick and James (posting by Pat Collendar on Ancestry.com message board http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames ... sidine/73/). Patrick married Bridget Guthrie from Ballytigue, Ruan, in 1868. Their daughter, Margaret, married Michael Neylon in 1905 and lived in Parnell Street, Ennis – she is the Mrs. Neylon mentioned among the mourners. James married Ellen Falvey, from Ballyea, Clarecastle, in 1876 – Paddy and Gretta from Fountain are two of their children. Delia Considine, Ennis, is a daughter of Daniel and Kate’s third son, Michael, who married Anne Fox from Crannaher, Clooney, in 1878. They lived in Brewery Lane, Ennis, and had 10 children (finding these was easy thanks to Clare Roots Society transcriptions donated to http://www.ennisparish.com/genealogy/)
Two more sons, Sylvester and John, are mentioned among the uncles. John did not marry. Sylvester married Mary O’Grady in 1894 and Danny, Paddy, Mary Kate, Nell and Rosie are their children.
Daniel and Kate had five daughters: Ellen married Thomas Daly, Cloontoohil, Dysert, in 1883; Bridget married Patrick Daffy, Derrygarriff, Crusheen, in 1890; Catherine married John O’Keeffe, Barnageeha, Darragh, in 1894. This explains some aunts and cousins mentioned.
Jeremiah Considine and Margaret Duggan are the bereaved parents. Margaret’s mother was Bridget Frost, and this explains the Frost connection. Mary and Nell Enright, Cragleigh, may be relatives of the Frosts: a Delia Enright was a witness at the marriage of Jeremiah and Margaret - she may the Bridget Enright who is a daughter of Johanna Frost (1901 census Smithstown, Clenagh DED). I think W. Arthur, Barefield, is another Frost relative – a John Froste was sponsor at his baptism on 12th April 1863 (Doora-Kilraghtis parish records).
Mrs. Fahy, Dublin, seems to have been a sister of Miss A. O’Neill, Newmarket – Ellen O’Neill married Michael Fahy in Dublin on 5th Feb. 1894 (irishgenealogy). But I don’t know how they are related to Jeremiah and Margaret, nor do I know how the Malones from Feakle, the Walshes from Cragroe, Pat Minogue from Feakle, the Clunes* from Ballymaclune, the Cusacks from Ballyblood, the Driscolls from Broadford, and W. Hanrahan, Ennis, are related.
Mr. and Mrs. Molony from Carrahan House, and Matty, May and Tim Molony, are living in Lassanagh, Clooney, in 1901, and with them is Mr. Molony’s mother, Honora, aged 86. Here, at last, is a sibling of Daniel: the Clooney-Quin baptisms show Michael Molony and Honor Considine, Rathclooney, as parents of John baptised Dec. 3rd 1852; Michael baptised Aug. 18th 1854; Patt baptised Oct. 26th 1856; Catherine baptised Apr. 15th: 1859. Slow progress, but progress.

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*Mr W. Clune, N.T., Ballinruane, was a brother of Conor Clune from Quin, who was shot in Dublin on 21st Nov. 1920, along with Peadar Clancy and Dick McKee, in revenge for the assassination of British Intelligence agents that morning. It is generally accepted that it was a case of mistaken identity. Conor (Corney) is aged 7 in the 1901 census.

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:49 am

The Clare Journal and Ennis Advertiser reported on the progress of the Special Commission, which sat in Ennis in April, 1831, and included a case in which Sylvester Considine appeared as a witness. The Special Commission had been set up to crack down the rise in agrarian crime in the county. For background information read Michael McMahon’s “Agrarian Conflict in Clare: 1815 – 1831” http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... _intro.htm
So many cases were brought before the Commission that a second sitting was held in June of that year. Daniel O’Connell came to Ennis to defend the prisoners, but did not come in time for Michael Guerin, who had no defence at all, and was sentenced to be hanged. Here is my transcription of an excerpt from the report - at that time only the answers given by witnesses were reported – not the questions asked of them:

Monday, First Day: Michael Guerin was indicted, for that he, on the 4th of March last, did assault the house of Silvester Considine, at Ballygriffy. On a second indictment he was charged with attacking the house of John Considine, at same time and place.

Sylvester Considine examined by the Attorney-General – Is upwards of 70 years of age; lives at Ballygriffy; recollects the night the people came to his house, last March; does not know what hour; they knocked at his door; felt them but did not see them; there was no light; does not know how many were there; they fired a shot on coming in; one of them came to his bedside and bid him put his head under the clothes; and he did so; does not know whether they had arms; missed some things; but cannot tell what they are; his boy, John Considine, slept in the next room; they desired him to get up and he did, and they drove him, with all that were in the house into a room, and shut the door; while they were in the room, the party were rummaging the kitchen; they broke a lock and a chest; they cut the beds and dug up the kitchen floor; a man came to the door and asked if they were all there; his boy told them if the man came again to say they were all within; the boy then got up on a heap of potatoes, and made his way out through the roof of the house; when he got out he went to look for his clothes; they struck him once with a stick; the party went out to his son’s house; did not see the faces of any of them; there was a man brought into his house afterwards with his face black; there were three gowns of his wife’s taken that night, his own hat, and several other things.
John Considine examined by Mr. Bennet – This witness, who was servant to Silvester Considine, corroborated the testimony of the last witness as far as his going out through the roof of the house. He then stated that when he got out he went to call assistance and got two men; he saw a light in Consedine’s house, who is son to last witness, and went over to it; he saw a man standing at the door, and said to O’Brien that he was the sentry; when the man was running out they took him; identifies prisoner as being the person he took; they brought him to Silvester Considine’s house; Guerin said that he was with the party and that he never did a mean act in his life before that night.
James Hogan and James O’Brien, the two men that were with the last witness, corroborated his testimony.
There was no cross-examination of any of those witnesses, no Counsel being employed.
Two witnesses were examined for the defence, who proved that the prisoner was coming home from Ennis, on that night, when a party of men took him away from his mother, who was with him.
The Learned Judge then charged the Jury, who found the prisoner guilty – sentence of death passed – to be executed the 27th instant. The Court then adjourned to 10 o’clock next day.

The Evening Mail (Dublin) of 13th April 1831 also carried a report on the progress of the Special Commission in Clare and Sylvester’s name appears at the end. Here is my transcription:

Ennis Adjourned Assizes:
At eleven o’clock in the forenoon of Thursday last the Hon. Justice Jebb and the Hon. Baron Pennefather entered the Crown Court, when the long panel of Jurors was immediately called over on fines of 10/- each, and out of a multitude of names not one in ten answered the summons, although several were in Court, and willing enough to suffer the penalty sooner than have themselves marked by the peasantry for serving on a trial of life or death where the evidence might induce a verdict of guilty. With evident reluctance those few who did answer came forward to the book to be sworn, and it was considerable time before the Jury was completed.
Michael Linnane was indicted under the Whiteboy Act, for that he, with others, did on the 5th of October last, contrary to the laws and statutes of the realm, riotously assemble and take away by force and threats, at Carahdue, a mare, the property of Margaret Connelan.
The Attorney-General stated the case for the Crown, and reviewed at great length and with powerful effect the present most alarming and disorganized state of society in Clare, the almost universal confederacy formed against life and property, and the pernicious consequences of such a conspiracy against the welfare and prosperity of the country. The Learned Attorney-General also explained very fully the provisions of the Whiteboy Code, and the high authority with which it invests the Magistrates for the suppression of secret and illegal associations. At the conclusion of an able, temperate, and most impressive speech, the Learned Counsel was complimented by both Judges for the wise and judicious statement he had made. The prisoner was found guilty on an indictment for an unlawful and tumultuous assembling.
Andrew and James O’Loghlen, brothers, were indicted under the same statute for burglary and robbery in the house of James Nealon, at Ardmore. Verdict, Guilty.
The prisoners are farmers of respectable appearance, and understood to be in comfortable circumstances.
Judge Jebb immediately assumed the black cap, and amidst the most noisy uproar of their friends and relatives, especially females, who uttered piercing shrieks, sentenced the prisoners to be hanged, and explicitly told them there was no chance of their being saved, in the present state of the county, as he believed them to be members of the wicked confederacy which now prevails to so frightful an extent.
Michael Donnellan and Matthew Corbett were convicted of appearing in arms by night, on the 13th March.
Michael Guerin, for a similar crime in the house of Sylvester and John Considine, at Ballyduff, was also found guilty, and received sentence of death.
In cases of this kind the Learned Judge declared that mercy to the culprits would be a cruelty to a whole community.

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:39 am

"Mrs. Fahy, Dublin, seems to have been a sister of Miss A. O’Neill, Newmarket – Ellen O’Neill married Michael Fahy in Dublin on 5th Feb. 1894 (irishgenealogy). But I don’t know how they are related to Jeremiah and Margaret, nor do I know how the Malones from Feakle, the Walshes from Cragroe, Pat Minogue from Feakle, the Clunes* from Ballymaclune, the Cusacks from Ballyblood, the Driscolls from Broadford, and W. Hanrahan, Ennis, are related".

Since I wrote that I have found a bit more on W. Hanrahan:
William Hanrahan was born on 28th July 1903 to James Hanrahan, a Grocer in Mill St., Ennis, and Rebecca Arthur. By 1911, Mill St. had been renamed Parnell St., and the 1911 census shows Willie there, aged 8.

Willie died in 1927, aged 24. I can’t find the exact date, but his death was reported Clare Champion of 16th April 1927: “Death at early aged of 24 years of Mr. Willie Hanrahan, Parnell St., Ennis. The deceased had been prominently identified with the national movement. His ardent convictions were such that he was interned for a long period in 1922, and to the hardships then suffered his friends attribute the onset of the disease which has now proved fatal. His funeral to Kilrockdish [Kilraghtis] was attended by many old comrades”.

The headstone inscriptions for Kilraghtis, donated by Edel Greene and Mary Kearns, do not show one for Willie – I am guessing he was buried in one of the Arthur graves.

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:51 am

I should have said that it looks like William Hanrahan was related to Joe Considine (the deceased) through the Arthurs who seem to be connected to Frosts (Joe’s grandmother was Bridget Frost). But maybe there is a more straightforward explanation, which I haven’t found yet.

The O’Neills in Newmarket-on-Fergus seem to be connected to Joe by the same route. I looked at the obituary for Mr. Denis O’Neill in the Clare Champion of 27th June 1914. It’s a very long and very glowing tribute*, but for my purposes here I will skip to the chief mourners: Ml O’Neill, D.C., Rathfoland (son); Miss O’Neill, Maryville Hotel, Newmarket-on-Fergus, and Mrs. Fahy (Dublin); Joe Fahy, Laurence, Joe and M. O’Neill, and Miss Mona O’Neill, grand children; Frank McNamara, Old Ground Hotel, Ennis, John Hogan, Mrs. Hastings, and Pat and Tom Hogan, J. Hastings, Tom, John, Tim, and Pat O’Neill (cousins); Mrs. Murphy and Miss Hogan, sisters-in-law; Tom Hogan, D.C., Jas. Enright, D.C., and Mrs. Enright, Ml Quinlivan, Ml Wallace, D.C. and Mrs. Wallace, James and Mrs. Enright, Mr. and Mrs. Macnamara, Ml. Enright, D.C., Mr. and the Misses Frost, Sixmilebridge, Ml. and J. Frost, Tom and Patrick Duggan, Willie and Harry O’Brien, Patrick [Andrew? – faded] and Miss Hogan.
The following sent wreaths – Miss O’Neill, Mr. and Mrs. O’Neill, Mr. and Mrs. Fahy and grandchildren, Victoria Road, Dublin.

Here is an excerpt from the obituary: “We regret to announce the death of Mr. Denis O’Neill, which occurred at Maryville, Newmarket-on-Fergus… Mr. O’Neill was in his eighty-first year…
… a man of standing even before the passing of Mr. Gladstone’s first Land Act, he had much to lose by espousing the popular cause. Those were the tenant-at-will days, before Parnell and Davitt made it possible for an Irishman to indulge the luxury of an opinion of his own. He was equal to any sacrifice when the heather took fire, and his exertions in these stirring times are part of a series which belong to the history of a country rather than to a personal memoir. Even before Michael Davitt raised the banner of the Land League, he was imbued with a firm conviction of the necessity of some sort of land reform. In Isaac Butt’s time he was secretary to the Clare Farmer’s Club, being one of the first, if not the very first, who held the position. He was also secretary to the first Land League started in Newmarket-on-Fergus in the Plan of Campaign days. He was an able supporter of the late Mr. “Ned” Bennett when he won the chair of the Ennis Union from the late Lord Inchiquin, and it will certainly be admitted that he had the courage of his opinions in thus opposing his own landlord. Together with the late Fr. Loughnane, Adm., he also joined issue against Lord Inchiquin relative to a number of cases of tenants of the Ballygreen property, and in three cases (O’Neill, Sheehan and McMahon) had the pleasure and reward of seeing the popular cause triumphant. That the deceased transmitted not a little of his spirit to his children, an episode at this period will serve to show. In the year 1888, at the height of the agitation, a great public demonstration, to be addressed by Mr. William O’Brien and Mr Michael Davitt, was proclaimed at Ballycoree. The meeting then adjourned to the Burns Store, but here they were surrounded like rats in a trap by police and a squadron of Hussars. Amongst those arrested and brought before a court under the Coercion Act were Mr. Michael and Mr. Pat O’Neill, the latter of whom was captain of the famous old Dalgais football club, and was one of the best players they had…”

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:51 am

Daniel Considine and Kate Gavin of Kilgobbin, Clooney, had 11 children. Most of these are mentioned above, but three are not:
1. Daniel Considine, baptised 15 Dec 1850, is not in any later records and may have died young.
2. Hannah Considine, born in Kilgobbin 19 Jul 1868, - no further records found.
3. Maria Considine is a mystery. She was described as a minor when she married Daniel Ginnane in 1873, so I think she must have been born in the late 1850s, but her baptism is not shown in the Quin-Clooney baptisms. She cannot be the nameless child who was baptised on 3 March 1846 – that child would be aged 26 in 1873. I think that child must be Michael who married Anne Fox in 1878: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 8/mode/1up.
The record of Maria’s marriage shows that she was the daughter of Daniel Considine; Daniel Ginnane, from Kildysart, was the son of Patrick Ginnane: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 208586.pdf.
A daughter, Mary, was born to Maria and Daniel in Kildysart in November 1873. A son, John, was born to them on 14 June 1875: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 131695.pdf. I have found no further records for this couple and would be thankful for any help.

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:41 pm

I was mistaken in thinking that Delia Enright, who was witness at the marriage of Joe Considine’s (the deceased man) parents (Jeremiah Considine and Margaret Duggan) in 1898, was a daughter of Johanna Frost. I now think it much more likely that Delia was Johanna’s granddaughter. Delia (Bridget) was aged 17 in 1901 and was the daughter of Patrick Enright and Bridget Frost who lived in Smithstown, Drumline parish (Clenagh DED). Bridget’s mother, Johanna Frost, lived with them. Bridget’s husband, Patrick Enright, had died in 1890, aged 41. According to the record of the marriage of Patrick Enright and Bridget Frost in 1878, Patrick was from Ralahine and was a son of John Enright: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 060357.pdf
This John Enright may be the same John Enright who was father of Timothy Enright, who is living in Rathlaheen South (Tomfinlough DED) in 1901, aged 47. The record of the marriage of Timothy Enright to Johanna McNamara, in 1885, gives Timothy’s father as John Enright: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 966101.pdf. Newmarket on Fergus baptisms show that John Enright was married to Bridget Hastings. Thady, baptised on 30 Jan 1853, was one of their children. I think that Ml., Mary and Nell Enright, Cragleigh*, who were among the chief mourners at the funeral of Joe Considine, are the children of Timothy Enright and Johanna McNamara; they have no blood connection to Johanna Frost as far as I can see, but they may have considered Johanna to be an aunt. Johanna Frost was Johanna Reidy who married Robert Frost (according to last paragraph of this piece, by Flan Enright, Johanna Frost was Johanna Reidy from Rineanna. She married Robert Frost (no date given)): https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... frost2.htm . Newmarket parish register shows the marriage of Robert Frost and Johanna Riedy on 11 Jan 1842.
* “Cragleigh” should be Cragalough, which was an old placename still in use by people living in Rathlaheen South (see Tithe applotment book for Tomfinlough parish, 1825). The record of the death of John Enright (sen.), in 1882, gives his address as Cragalough: 12 Dec 1882, Cragalough: Death of John Enright, widower, Farmer, aged 76; informant: Timothy Enright, son, Cragalough: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 831780.pdf

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:09 am

I’ve found that mourners “Mr. and Mrs. J. Malone, Feakle; Thady Malone, do;” are connected to Joe Considine, of Kilgobbin, through a Frost family living in Rosmanaher, Feenagh parish. Joe Considine’s mother was Margaret Duggan, and Margaret’s mother was Bridget Frost, of Rosmanaher, who married John Duggan, of Morrisk, on 7 Feb 1858 (Sixmilebridge marriages 1840-1864). John Duggan and Bridget lived in Carrighmahaune in Clooney parish (see 1901 census for Carrighmahaune (Spancelhill DED).
Maria Frost, Rosmanaher, married John Malone, Erina (Feakle parish), on 15 Feb 1855 (Sixmilebridge marriages 1840-1864). John and Maria lived in Annagh (adjacent to Erinagh) in Feakle parish - see 1901 census for Annagh, (Coolreagh DED). Their sons, John aged 27 and Timothy aged 30, are living at home in 1901. John (jun.) married Bridget O’Brien in 1917* and they are mourners Mr. and Mrs J. Malone, Feakle. Thady Malone is John’s brother.
*Michael Peter Frost is a witness to the marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 34066a.pdf.
Bridget Frost and Maria Frost may have been sisters, but it would take a better brain than mine to sort out the Frost families living in Rosmanagher (Feenagh parish).

And I’ve also found that “James and Mrs. O’Driscoll, Broadford” were related to Joe Considine through a Rossmanagher Frost family. Mrs. O’Driscoll was Mary Ellen Minogue, from Annagh, Feakle parish, who married James O’Driscoll in 1902*. Mary Ellen was a daughter of Michael Minogue and her mother was Margaret Frost of Rosmanaher. Michael and Margaret were married on 20 Nov 1864: Marriage of Michael Minogue, aged 27, Farmer, Feakle, son of Michael Minogue, Farmer, to Margaret Frost, aged 24, Rossmanagher, daughter of Pat Frost, Farmer, in Sixmilebridge chapel; witnesses: John Frost, Patrick Minogue: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 60922a.pdf
This marriage is recorded in Sixmilebridge parish register 1865-1881, but Minogue is spelled “Mangan” [Feakle] and the witnesses in that record are John Malone, Feakle, John Frost, Rosmanaher. Michael Minogue and Margaret Frost lived in Annagh, Feakle parish.
*11 Feb 1902: Marriage of James O’Driscoll, Farmer, Kiluran, O’Callaghan’s Mills, son of James O’Driscoll, Farmer, to Mary Ellen Minogue, Annagh, Feakle, daughter of Michael Minogue, Farmer, in Feakle chapel; witnesses: Pat O’Driscoll, Mary T. Malone: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 736173.pdf

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:04 am

Mourners, “John and Ned Duggan, Kilkishen”, are sons of Thomas Duggan and Norah [Moroney], who are living in Ahaclare, Kilseily parish (Kilseily DED) in 1901: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... e108_5.htm. Thomas Duggan married Norah Moroney on 8 Feb 1876 and a Michael Clune from Ballymarkam was witness at the marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 089975.pdf
I think this connection between the Duggans of Ahaclare and the Clunes of Ballymarkham (Quin parish) was brought about by the marriage, on 1 Mar 1862, of Bridget Duggan, Aghaclare, to Patrick Clune, Quin parish - see Broadford marriages 1844-1883: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 8/mode/1up.
It appears from the Broadford parish marriage record of Catherine Duggan*, Aghaclare, that the Duggans of Ahaclare were related to Joe Considine’s mother, Margaret Duggan from Moyriesk. Margaret's parents, John Duggan and Bridget Frost, were still alive in 1901 and living in Carrighmahaune/Curraghmoghaun (adjacent to Moyriesk), Clooney parish (Spancilhill DED): http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... un/352523/
* 16 Feb 1874: [Marriage of] John Enright, Limerick, to Catherine Duggan, Aghaclare; witnesses: Michael Butler, High St. Limerick, Mary Duggan, Moyriesk: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 3/mode/1up
The civil record does not give the Moyriesk address for witness Mary Duggan:https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 118710.pdf

The Duggans of Ahaclare were connected to the Walshes of Caherhurley, Kilnoe parish, usually called Bodyke, through the marriage, on 27 Nov 1869, of Ellen Duggan, Aghaclare, to Thady Walsh, Bodyke; witnesses: William Walsh, Bodyke, Anne Duggan, Woodfield: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 177854.pdf
A William Walsh was witness at that marriage and that may explain the mourners “Mr. and Mrs. Walsh, Cragroe”: William Walsh, from Caherhurley, married Bridget Corbett, Drumcharley, on 22 Jul 1908: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 661610.pdf . The 1911 census shows this couple living in Cragroe (Tulla DED).

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:30 am

Mourners “Georgina and Mary Frost, Sixmilebridge; Mr. and Mrs J. Fitzgerald, do”: Georgina and Mary Frost are daughters of Thomas Frost and Margaret Kett (There’s another Georgina Frost who is daughter of Solomon Frost). Tom Frost is mentioned as one of the uncles of Joe Considine, so I think Tom must be a brother of Bridget Frost, Joe’s maternal grandmother. Mrs. J. Fitzgerald is Bridget Frost - she is a daugher of Thomas Frost and sister of Georgina and Mary. The record of the baptism of Pat Robert Frost, one of the children of Thomas Frost and Margaret Kett, on 10 March 1877 (Sixmilebridge parish baptisms 1865 – 1881) gives the sponsors as Pat and Maria Duggan: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 4/mode/1up.
The civil record of the marriage of Thomas Frost to Margaret Kett, on 18 Feb 1873, gives Thomas’s father as Patrick Frost and the witnesses as John Hogan and Maria O’Halloran: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 208247.pdf. So I think Thomas is a son of Patrick Frost and Margaret Hogan who was baptised on 12 May 1835 (see Sixmilebridge parish baptisms 1828-1839): https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 9/mode/1up

Mourners “Mary and Mrs. Cusack, Ballyblood”: Mrs. Cusack is Mary Kate Clune, daughter of Patrick Clune (dead), Ballymarkham, who was married to Michael Cusack, Tyrera (a part of the townland of Ballyblood, Tulla parish) in Feb 1901: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 750372.pdf.
Mary Kate was born on 12 Jun 1864 to Patrick Clune and Bridget Doogan (Duggan): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 333140.pdf
Her husband, Michael Cusack, died 20 Nov. 1917, aged 62; the informant was James McInerney, cousin, Derrymore: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 444328.pdf
Mary Cusack, aged 7 in 1911, was their only child: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... od/368655/
Mary Kate’s parents, Pat Clune, Quin parish, and Bridget Duggan, Aghaclare, were married in Broadford parish on 1 Mar 1862: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 8/mode/1up

The 1901 census for Ballymarkahan (Quin DED) shows that Bridget [Duggan] was a widow: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... n145_5.htm. Patrick Clune had died on 24 Aug 1895, aged 62; informant: William Clune, son, Ballymarkham: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 681029.pdf

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:45 am

I’d failed to find any further record for Hannah Considine, youngest child of Daniel Considine and Kate Gavin (see seventh posting above). Hannah was born in 1868, 26 years after the birth of their first child, Pattrick, in 1842: But now, while searching for the marriage records for chief mourners, “Pat Duggan, Tom Duggan, Michael Duggan”(uncles of Joe Considine), I found Hannah. She had become “Nora”. Nora married Michael Duggan in Wexford town, Co. Wexford, in 1910: 14 Sept 1910: Michael Duggan, Draper, Moyriesk, son of John Duggan, Farmer, to Nora Considine, Milliner, Wexford, daughter of Daniel Considine, Farmer, in Clooney Church; witnesses: Thomas Duggan, Mary O’Keeffe: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 637943.pdf. This was the second marriage between the two families, Jeremiah Considine having married Margaret Duggan in 1898: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 790661.pdf.
The 1901 census shows that Nora Considine was already established as a milliner in Main Street, Wexford in 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... h/1805283/
The 1911 census shows her as Nora Duggan, wife of Michael Duggan. She gives her age as 38, but was really aged 41: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... th/698062/
A son, Francis Michael, was born, on 5 Oct 1913, to Michael Duggan and Nora Considine : https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 586128.pdf. Michael and Nora Duggan returned to Ennis sometime after this birth. Francis Michael died in Steeles Terrace, Ennis, on 14 Nov 1939, aged only 25: Death of Francis Michael Duggan, aged 25, Civil Servant; informant: Nora Duggan, mother of deceased, 20 Steeles Terrace, Ennis: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 264350.pdf

The other two Duggan uncles, Patrick and Thomas, also married. Thomas married Mary Meagher in 1912: 26 Nov 1912: Marriage of Thomas Duggan, Clerk, Asylum, son of John Duggan, Farmer, to Mary Meagher, School Assistant, O’Connell St., Ennis, daughter of Denis Meagher, in Ennis Cathedral; witnesses: Jerome Considine, Ellie Meagher: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 587201.pdf
This couple lived in Verdant Hill, Ennis, as the record of the birth of their first child shows:
3 Jun 1914, Verdant Hill, Ennis: Birth of Mary Teresa to Thomas Duggan, Storekeeper, and Mary Meagher: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 579007.pdf
Thomas Duggan’s address in the list of Sinn Fein members, 1918-1920, (https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/cocla ... _club2.htm) is Verdant Hill.
Patrick Duggan remained in the homeplace, Curraghmoghaun (Spancelhill DED), and married Hannah Fox in 5 Feb 1898: Marriage of Patrick Duggan, Farmer, Moyriesk, son of John Duggan, Farmer, alive, to Hannah Fox, Cranaher, daughter of Martin Fox, Farmer, dead, in Clooney chapel; witnesses: John Malone, Mary Irwin: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 790660.pdf. Hannah Fox was baptised as Honora in Clooney on 17 Oct 1870. She gives her name as Hannah in 1901 and as Hanoria in 1911. She was a younger sister of Anne Fox, who was baptised 19 Dec 1858, and who married Michael Considine, the third son of Daniel Considine and Kate Gavin, on 26 Oct 1878: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 070963.pdf.

More on Michael Considine and Anne Fox in next posting.

Sheila

P.S. “Rev. Bro. Vincent De La Salle, Bagnalstown” was James Duggan, born in 1867, a brother of chief mourners, “Pat Duggan, Tom Duggan, Michael Duggan". The 1901 census for Bride (Kildare DED), Co. Kildare, shows James Duggan, aged 32, Superior of Community, born in Co. Clare, Nat. Teacher: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... e/1440731/. The 1911 census for Sackville Street (Dunmanway North DED), Co. Cork, shows James Duggan, aged 47, Superior: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... et/410409/

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:31 am

Michael Considine and Anne Fox, who married in Clooney parish in 1878, had a sad life. Of the ten children born to them, four or five died in childhood.

Children of Michael Considine and Anne Fox:
(a) Maria baptised 10 Aug 1879: Maria of Michael Considine and Anne Fox, Lifford; sponsors: Patrick Considine, Mary A Considine
Civil record: 09. Aug 1879, Lifford: Birth of Maria Considine to Michael Considine, Flour Dealer, Lifford, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 063632.pdf
Maria emigrated to Australia. She married William Reilly Mac Kay. She visited Ennis in 1905 when her mother, Anne, was dying in 1905. A daughter, Delicia Florence, was born to Maria, in Fergus Row, on 30th June 1905: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 696165.pdf

(b) Daniel: 13 Nov 1880, Causeway: Birth of Daniel Considine to Michael Considine, Publican, The Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 043659.pdf
Daniel went to England – see death notice below.

(c) Bridget (Delia): 8 Jun 1882, Causeway: Birth of Bridget Considine to Michael Considine, Grocer, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 043659.pdf. Delia remained in Ennis and did not marry. See obit. for Delia below. She was one of the mourners at the funeral of Joe Considine in 1922.

(d and e) John and Kate: 22 Aug 1883, Causeway: Birth of John Considine and Kate Considine to Michael Considine, Shopkeeper, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 000767.pdf. Both John and Kate died aged 3 days: 25 Aug 1883, Causeway: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 821660.pdf

(f) Patrick: 27 Oct 1884, Causeway: Birth of Patrick Considine to Michael Considine, Grocer, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 982261.pdf
Patrick was at home in Brewery Lane in 1901, aged 16: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... e/1069889/. He emigrated to U.S. sometime before 1912 (see emigration record for his sister, Catherine, below).

(g) John: 16 Feb 1886, Causeway: Birth of John Considine to Michael Considine, Grocer, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 963756.pdf. John died, aged 12, on 26 Feb 1899, child of car owner, Michael Considine, Brewery Lane: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 638983.pdf

(h) Michael: 1 Jul 1887, Causeway: Birth of Michael Considine to Michael Considine, Grocer, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 941929.pdf
I have found no further records for Michael. He is not at home in Brewery Lane in 1901, when he would have been only 13, or in 1911.

(i) Catherine: 09.05.1889, Causeway: Birth of Kate Considine to Michael Considine, Shopkeeper, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 913820.pdf. Kate is living at home in Brewery Lane 1901 aged 10: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... e/1069889/. In 1911, she is with her grandmother, Bridget Fox, in Cranaher (Spancelhill DED): http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... er/352520/
Catherine emigrated to U.S. (see obit for Daniel below). A Kitty Considine from Fergus Row (with a sister, Delia) booked passage to U.S., going to brother Patrick Considine, 101 Lowe Ter Newbrighton, N.Y. on 28.07.1912.

(j) Susan: 16 Nov 1890, Causeway: Birth of Susan Considine to Michael Considine, Grocer, Causeway, and Anne Fox: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 893475.pdf. Susan died, aged 2, on 20 Oct 1892, in Mill Street, child of a car proprietor, Michael Considine, Mill Street: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 709674.pdf

Obituaries:
Mrs. Considine, Brewery Lane, Ennis, 22nd July 1905; Obit. Also 29th Jul.
Death of Mrs. Considine, Ennis – We deeply regret to announce the death of Mrs. Considine, wife of Mr Michael Considine, Brewery Lane, Ennis, which took place on Thursday evening at 6 o’clock p. m. after a brief illness. The deceased was in her usual health until a short time ago, when she took suddenly ill, and all that medical skill and the constant care of living hands could do proved unavailing. The deceased was extremely popular with all classes in Ennis where her warm-hearted and genial nature won for her many friends. Great sympathy is felt on all sides with her husband and family in their sad bereavement. The remains were removed to the Catherdral on Friday evening and the funeral takes place today (Saturday) to the family burial ground at Kilcross. West Australian papers please copy.

This may be the record of the death of Michael Considine: 6 Aug. 1911, in the workhouse, Michael Considine, from Ennis, Widower, aged 65, Labourer: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 503172.pdf

Death notice and obit for Delia Considine: Miss Delia Considine, Fergus Row, Ennis, 28 Apr. 1928: obit.: Miss Delia Considine: The death occurred on Monday in the County Hospital of Miss Delia Considine, daughter of the late Michael Considine, Fergus Row, Ennis. The deceased was for over 20 years a trusted employee of Mr. M. J. McNamara, Solicitor, and a very capable shorthand-typist. She was very popular in Ennis and district and her death at an early age has occasioned widespread feelings of regret. After requiem Mass in the Cathedral on Tuesday, the funeral took place to Kilcross, the chief mourners being Mr. Jeremiah Considine and Mr. Sylvester Considine (uncles); Mrs. Duggan, Moyriesk, Mrs. Daly, Cloontoohil, Mrs. Ml. Duggan, O’Connell St, Mrs. O’Keeffe, Darragh, and Mrs. Daffy, Crusheen (aunts).

Death notice for Daniel Considine: Daniel Considine, Fergus Row, Ennis & England, 6th May 1950: Considine – Daniel Considine, in England, on 13th April, 1950; eldest son of the late Mr. and Mrs Michael Considine, of Fergus Row, Ennis, Co. Clare Ireland. Survived by one sister in U.S.A. (Australian papers please copy).

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by smcarberry » Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:36 am

Sheila, you are adding to this thread faster than I can get back here to post another source for you -- the one which I announced on this Forum when the National Archives (Dublin) first put online the 1905 Teachers Census. Arranged alphabetically by teacher's surname, you will find James Duggan age 36, who by 1922 was apparently known as Bro. Vincent, per the relative's obituary you posted. in the 1905 census he is listed as head/principal of St. Patrick's Monastery, Co. Cork. De La Salle had been his "training facility" with his earliest education at Carrahan, Quin (Clare). His full entry can be seen on this page:
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/wp-cont ... _Redux.pdf

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Re: Considine Family Tree

Post by Sduddy » Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:22 am

Hi Sharon

Thank you for that extra information on James Duggan and thank you for reminding me of that link to the 1905 teachers census (https://tinyurl.com/y5jfnrqt), which you gave us in August 2020.

I think I’ve made as much as I can of the mourners at the funeral of Joe Considine (who was shot in June 1922, aged only 20: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 389776.pdf). I tried to find a connection between the Arthurs in Kilraghtis (there are several) and one of the Frost families (there are several), but only became more puzzled. Mourners, Mr and Mrs W. Arthur, are William Arthur and Margaret Ryan, Cragard, Kilraghtis, who were married on 11 Feb 1907: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 667963.pdf. When William was baptised on 12 Apr 1863, one of the sponsors was John Frost (Doora-Kilraghtis baptisms 1862 – 1881): https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 6/mode/1up William’s parents were William Arthur and Mary Hogan; it may be that it was Mary Hogan who was related to the Frosts, but the marriage of William Arthur and Mary Hogan, on 20 Feb 1855 (Doora-Kilraghtis parish marriages 1823-1880), gives no clue as to that: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls ... 0/mode/1up.
William’s (jun) sister was Rebecca Arthur, who was married to James Hanrahan and was the mother of Willie Hanrahan; Willie was another mourner at the funeral.

Sheila

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