John Burns & Margaret Roughan of Carrigaholt
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:55 pm
John Burns
In Re: Inheritances, bequests by Clare emigrants to U.S., Australia posted on this forum Jan 16, 2010 by Paddy Waldron:
"My greatgrandfather John McNamara was described as the senior heir on the McNamara side and also by far the best informed about the family history. His son-in-law, Gerald Burns, later a Fianna Fail county councillor, became the representative of the heirs and wrote a long series of letters asking for the legal file to be handed over by the lawyers to the family."
I am trying to trace the family of this son-in-law Gerald Burns.
My great-grandfather John Lynch was born in Clare in about 1808. My great-grandmother was born in Clare in February 1819 (from a family bible). The first publicly documented mention of them is their marriage in Ennis, 24 July 1842.
All my direct attempts to trace their families in Clare have been unsuccessful, partly because my great-grandparents lost their teaching jobs because of political activity during the famine and moved to Kilkenny in 1850 and so presumably lost much contact with their families in Clare.
My great-aunt Mary Kate MacMahon ran a hotel in Limerick and her husband, Thomas, was a boot manufacturer and seller. She died in 1910 and her husband in 1909. The census return, nai002764109, for the hotel in 1911 is intriguing:
The first line is John Burns, Father, crossed out, replaced by Head.
The second line is Elizabeth MacMahon, Wife, crossed out, replaced by Relative.
The third line is Agnes MacMahon, Daughter, crossed out, replaced by Relative
The form is signed by Elizabeth MacMahon. Elizabeth was the third child of Thomas and Mary Kate, aged 44, and Agnes, the fourteenth, aged 23. So, apart from Elizabeth's surname, the unamended return looks plausible. Elizabeth died single in 1945.
John Burns was a widower, with five children, the youngest 10 in 1911. One of these children is Gerald Burns, mentioned above.
On the assumption that John Burns was indeed a relative, I am hoping that tracing John Burns' family might lead to me finding out about my family in Clare.
John himself was born in Tipperary about 1859 (nothing further known). Thomas MacMahon came from Rathkeale, Limerick. The closest connection appears to be with John's wife, Margaret Roughan.
Margaret was born about 1861 the son of John Rougham of Carrigaholt. A brother was Thomas Roughan and a sister Mary Healy. All the following appear to be cousins (mentioned in the funeral report, Limerick Leader 16 June 1905, p3):
Thomas Roughan Cappa Kilrush
Stephen Roughan, John Roughan, Kilkee
M J Carmody, Kilkee
Patrick and Thomas Bonfill, Kilbaha
Martin and Timothy Hare, junior, Kilkee
John Kelly, Carrigaholt
Patrick Carmody, Carrigaholt
Michael Conway, Doonbeg
Can anyone help me connect the families of John Burns and John Lynch or Susan McCormick please?
(It may be relevant that Irish was taught and spoken at home by my great-grandparents.)
David Lynch
In Re: Inheritances, bequests by Clare emigrants to U.S., Australia posted on this forum Jan 16, 2010 by Paddy Waldron:
"My greatgrandfather John McNamara was described as the senior heir on the McNamara side and also by far the best informed about the family history. His son-in-law, Gerald Burns, later a Fianna Fail county councillor, became the representative of the heirs and wrote a long series of letters asking for the legal file to be handed over by the lawyers to the family."
I am trying to trace the family of this son-in-law Gerald Burns.
My great-grandfather John Lynch was born in Clare in about 1808. My great-grandmother was born in Clare in February 1819 (from a family bible). The first publicly documented mention of them is their marriage in Ennis, 24 July 1842.
All my direct attempts to trace their families in Clare have been unsuccessful, partly because my great-grandparents lost their teaching jobs because of political activity during the famine and moved to Kilkenny in 1850 and so presumably lost much contact with their families in Clare.
My great-aunt Mary Kate MacMahon ran a hotel in Limerick and her husband, Thomas, was a boot manufacturer and seller. She died in 1910 and her husband in 1909. The census return, nai002764109, for the hotel in 1911 is intriguing:
The first line is John Burns, Father, crossed out, replaced by Head.
The second line is Elizabeth MacMahon, Wife, crossed out, replaced by Relative.
The third line is Agnes MacMahon, Daughter, crossed out, replaced by Relative
The form is signed by Elizabeth MacMahon. Elizabeth was the third child of Thomas and Mary Kate, aged 44, and Agnes, the fourteenth, aged 23. So, apart from Elizabeth's surname, the unamended return looks plausible. Elizabeth died single in 1945.
John Burns was a widower, with five children, the youngest 10 in 1911. One of these children is Gerald Burns, mentioned above.
On the assumption that John Burns was indeed a relative, I am hoping that tracing John Burns' family might lead to me finding out about my family in Clare.
John himself was born in Tipperary about 1859 (nothing further known). Thomas MacMahon came from Rathkeale, Limerick. The closest connection appears to be with John's wife, Margaret Roughan.
Margaret was born about 1861 the son of John Rougham of Carrigaholt. A brother was Thomas Roughan and a sister Mary Healy. All the following appear to be cousins (mentioned in the funeral report, Limerick Leader 16 June 1905, p3):
Thomas Roughan Cappa Kilrush
Stephen Roughan, John Roughan, Kilkee
M J Carmody, Kilkee
Patrick and Thomas Bonfill, Kilbaha
Martin and Timothy Hare, junior, Kilkee
John Kelly, Carrigaholt
Patrick Carmody, Carrigaholt
Michael Conway, Doonbeg
Can anyone help me connect the families of John Burns and John Lynch or Susan McCormick please?
(It may be relevant that Irish was taught and spoken at home by my great-grandparents.)
David Lynch