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carolyn
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John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by carolyn » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:12 am

John Doyle Ellis and his wife Mary (thought to be Hurley) came to Australia on the "Samuel Plimsoll" in l876 from Annacariga near Killolae.
They had 3 sons Joseph 5 born l871, John 4 born l872/3 and Julianne a babe in arms when the family left Ireland.
Dont have any details of their marriage or their families or indeed Juliannes birth/baptism. Cant find Annacariga. :oops: Any help appreciated. :?

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Re: John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by Paddy Casey » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:32 am

Carolyn,

Annacarriga is approx. 7kms (as a crow would fly if concentrating on the job) NNW of Killaloe up the R463 out of Killaloe (look, for example, for the townland of Carrownakilly or Carrowbaun - it's right next to them).

Geographical coordinates in decimal degrees (WGS84)
Latitude : 52.851
Longitude : -8.504

See also the 1842 map at http://www.clarelibrary.ie/map/gisMap.h ... ctL{w|main web page|http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... yheefy.htm

You might like to check out the Ellises and Hurleys in the parishes of Killaloe and Ogonnelloe at http://www.clarelibrary.ie In particular, look for Hurleys in townlands close to Annacarriga, remembering the 5-mile rule (marriages tended to be arranged within a radius of 5 miles).

Paddy

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Re: John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by smcarberry » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:15 pm

I just used the newly-online Irish Civil Registrations for a Killaloe family and found them registered in the Scariff Registration District. However, to reach listings in that district, I suggest inputting just the phrase "Clare, Ireland" in the location
line of the search engine. There are not too many Ellis listings in Clare and you will readily see the ones you need. From
just a minute or two, I gleaned these in the Scariff district:

Ellis
Julianna 1875 birth vol. 9, p. 454

Male 1872 birth vol. 19, p. 489

John Apr-Jun 1898 death age 80 [b.c. 1818] vol. 4, p. 289

Joseph 1872 death age 94 [b.c. 1778] vol. 14, p. 251

There are more for you to sift through and then you can send for copies of the certificates for all the good details preserved on them.

Here is the link to the civil registrations: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 347;p=2;t=

Sharon Carberry USA
East Clare descendant

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Re: John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by carolyn » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:47 pm

Thank you to both Paddy Switzerland and sharon Carberry from USA for
valuable and useful information. Kind regards Carolyn :lol: :D

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Annicariga/Annacarriga

Post by pwaldron » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:09 am

When I recently got the death certificate of Robert Sambrooke Taylor (see thread at http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=410), I was surprised to find that it was registered in the District of Annicariga (sic) but that he died in `Killaloe, Killaloe'.

Killaloe is an ancient town boasting a Cathedral etc.

From Paddy C's directions above, it seems that I have driven past Annacarriga on countless occasions without noticing it!

At http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... oe1845.htm the Parliamentary Gazeteer of Ireland 1845 states that the chief hamlets of the parish of Ogonnelloe are Annacarriga and Carnagnoe. At http://www.libraryireland.com/Lewis/Lew ... NILLOE.php Lewis in 1837 notes that Petty sessions are held generally on alternate Mondays at Annacarriga.

Why was Annacarriga considered more deserving of being a registration district than Killaloe when the civil registration system was set up? Why has its importance declined so much today?

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Re: John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by Paddy Casey » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:26 am

Here's a possible source. Patrick (Pakie) McNamara, aged 93, at the Lakes Nursing Home in Killaloe, formerly of Ballyminogue, Scariff, was a Home Assistance Officer (now called Community Welfare Officer) of the three dispensary districts of Mountshannon, Feakle and Annacarriga, the latter covering the Killaloe and Ogonnelloe areas. He was appointed in 1943 so he would know quite a bit about the area.

Assuming that he is still with us, if somebody were to swing by the Lakes nursing home in Killaloe and chat to him he might be able to tell something about the history of Annacarriga.

Just an idea.

Paddy

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Re: John Doyle Ellis and Mary ellis

Post by smcarberry » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:50 pm

Paddy Co., did you find that online article too? I read that this morning, so here is the link, along with the note I made on it:
p. 32 Patrick McNamara's account of serving the area 1945-81, his area being too large to cover in a standard business week
http://www.scariff.com/SNJULAUG09.pdf

What I picked up from my reading about Annacarriga is that it is synonomous with Ogonnelloe and has been a district for
governmental administrative purposes for quite some time. It would only be in more recent times that its significance has
faded, perhaps due to consolidation of services with the now more major centers of Killaloe and Scariff. Physically Annacarriga has a position mid-way between those two places. Even as late as 1914, population within the Annacarriga district was nearly as numerous as any of the East Clare cities. While servicing the area was difficult in the early to mid 1800s due to its mountainous terrain, a new road along Lough Derg improved transportation considerably. Even before that, though, the place was important in the overall Clare scheme of things, when agriculture was a primary industry and related events took place, like monthly fairs, which regularly took place in Annacarriga as well as Killaloe and Scarriff. I can readily appreciate that when the horse was the only alternative to foot traffic, having Annacarriga as an administrative center was a necessity and made it possible to have regular governmental activity in that part of East Clare.

Here are links to the other materials I reviewed, with the Parliamenray Gazeteer article containing an interesting observation of the perfectly-preserved castle in the area eventually destroyed when blown up due to illicit distilling:
Samuel Lewis on Ogonnelloe
books.google.com/books?id=3b4OAQAAIAAJ...

Parliamentary Gazeteer of 1844-45
books.google.com/books?id=1HMuAAAAMAAJ...

The County and city of Cork almanac
edited by Charles Thompson, 1843
books.google.com/books?id=ttUHAAAAQAAJ...
p. 102 fairs held at Scarriff, Annacarriga, and Killaloe

see also the fair schedule for 1832 in The Treble almanack ...: containing: I. John Watson Stewart's almanack
books.google.com/books?id=OSwsAAAAMAAJ...

This being Labor Day in the States, I have read and posted this at my leisure.

Sharon Carberry

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