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Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella West

Post by pwaldron » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:42 pm

I am trying to trace the descendants of Charles Cullinan and Bridget McMahon who married in Doonbeg parish on 24 Jan 1880 and afterwards lived in the townland of Dangananella West in the adjoining Kilmacduane parish. Bridget was my first cousin, three times removed.

In 1901, they are at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1078650/
with four sons Michael, Thomas, Martin and John.

Michael emigrated to the U.S. some time between 1901 and 1905 and married Annie Diggins at St. Leo's in Chicago on 11 Apr 1909. See register at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=11823352

On 9 Apr 1905, Tom Cullinan (22, male, single, labourer), last residence Kilrush, sailed from Queenstown on the Lucania. He arrived at Ellis Island on 15 Apr 1905, bound for New York, to join his brother Michl. Cullinan at 59 Vesey St., New York. I have been told that one of his first cousins said that he settled eventually in Buffalo, NY.

In 1911, the parents are at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... st/361055/
with their two remaining sons Martin and John. The census return says that the mother had seven children in all, five still living in 1911, so three had left home and were still alive.

A few weeks after this census, on 26 Apr 1911, John Cullinan (22, single, male, labourer) left Queenstown on the Caronia and arrived at Ellis Island on 3 May 1911. His brother Michael Cullinan of 7712 Normal Avenue in Chicago had paid his fare. He was 5' 9" with dark complexion and dark hair and had been born in Danganelly. His nearest relative at home was his father Charles Cullinan of Danganelly and he was bound for Chicago.

Martin inherited the home farm and eventually erected a tombstone to his father, inscribed:
`Erected by Martin Cullinan in loving memory of his father Charles who died April 30th 1931 aged 75 years.'
See http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... ptions.htm
I have been told that Martin had a son and daughter who both eventually went to England.

Charles Cullinan of Dangananella West (b. Abt 1851/7, d. 1931) could be confused with the slightly older Charles Cullinan of Moanmore Lower (b. Abt 1842/7, d. 1915), who appears in 1901 and 1911 at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... r/1081761/
and
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... er/363719/
Charles of Moanmore married Mary Keane in 1876 (Kilrush PLU q1 v4 p401), and according to the 1911 census they had 13 children, of whom I have names for only 11.

Three of the five children of Charles of Dangananella West alive in 1911 are easily identified: Martin, John and Michael. I am trying to prove that the other two alive in 1911 were Patrick and Thomas, and that the two who died before 1911 were Denis and Jim. I have found no confirmation that the Denis and Jim that I have heard of belong in this family, and have found entries in civil registration indexes that suggest that they do not.

I have a marriage certificate for Patrick Cullinan (son of Charles Cullinan, farmer) and Elizabeth O'Connor, married on 28 Apr 1909 in the Church of Mary Immaculate Refuge of Sinners, Rathmines, Dublin. They appear in 1911 with their first child at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... oad/48606/
which confirms that both were born in Clare. I have lots more information on their family (including a retired Chief Justice of Lesotho!), but have not yet been able to contact any living descendant.

The Cullinan & Cullinane Family Genealogy Project Website at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... /x0115.htm
(which does not appear to have been updated since 2001) describes a suspiciously similar, but far from identical, family group:
Thomas Cullinan (c1881-1933) married Delia Bridget O'Day. From this marriage, there were four daughters and one son (so far identified): Rita Cullinan Hanrihan, Suzanne M. Cullinan Kulp, Thomas J. Cullinan (1916-1986), Anna Cullinan and Mary Margaret Cullinan McNaughton. This family is listed at 18 Euclid Place in Buffalo between 1920 and 1956. Thomas Cullinan (Sr.) had five brothers, John Cullinan; Daniel Cullinan (who remained in Ireland); Michael Cullinan (to Chicago); Patrick Cullinan (in Buffalo) and Martin Cullinan (in Buffalo). This family can be found on Plate XVIII.
Plate XVIII gives some sources, but no other further details; see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... /p0018.htm

To further complicate matters, the surname is pronounced Quillinan and occasionally written Quinlan, but all official records that I have seen use Cullinan.

Can anyone confirm that either the Patrick Cullinan who married Elizabeth O'Connor in Dublin or the Thomas Cullinan who married Delia (or Bridget) O'Day (or O'Dea) in Buffalo was a son of Charles Cullinan and Bridget McMahon?

[Thanks to Cathy McManus Danhauer for additional information in death notices posted at
http://www.facebook.com/groups/countycl ... 931233370/:
Chicago Tribune (IL) - March 05, 1939
CULLINAN
Deceased Name: John J. Cullinan
--John J. Cullinan, suddenly, native of Danganelly, County Clare, Ireland, beloved son of Bridget McMahon and the late Charles Cullinan, loving brother of Michael and the late Thomas. Funeral Tuesday at 9:30 a.m., from funeral parlor, 7653 S. Halsted street to St. Leo church. Interment Holy Sepulchre. Stewart 7700.

Chicago Tribune (IL) - August 18, 1956
CULLINAN
Deceased Name: Anna Cullinan, nee Diggins
--Anna Cullinan, nee Diggins, 7951 S. Green, beloved wife of Michael; fond mother of Mary M. Armstrong; sister of Thomas, the late William Diggins and Bridget Coffey. Funeral from chapel, 7949 S. Halsted street, Monday, 9 a.m., to St. Leo's church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Burial Holy Sepulchre. Native of Ballyduff, County Kerry, Ireland.

Chicago Tribune (IL) - July 18, 1961
Cullinan
Deceased Name: Michael Cullinan
Michael Cullinan, beloved husband of the late Anna, nee Diggins; fond father of Mary M. Armstrong; brother of Martin and the late Patrick, John, and Thomas Cullinan. Funeral Wednesday, 9 a.m., from James Quinlan Funeral Home, 7949 S. Halsted street, to St. Leo's church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Interment Holy Sepulchre cemetery. Native of Danganelly, Cooraclare, County Clare, Ireland.]
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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by pwaldron » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:04 am

I've been encouraged to investigate the Cullinan & Cullinane Family Genealogy Project Website from which I quoted above.

The project is outlined at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... eDraftalso
but there's no sign of the promised book in the Clare County Library catalogue.

The comments page at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... ynotes.htm
is very badly polluted by spam.

The author's last query on ancestry.com was on 29 Nov 2001 - see
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/authorpost ... N5j0brEL_C

I've sent an e-mail to the address that he gives in that last query, and to another which appears at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... ndmail.htm
and to my surprise neither has yet bounced.

There is no match for the name and address that he gives at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... author.htm
in the Canadian online phone book at
http://www.canada411.ca/

I would be happy to contribute what I have learned about my Cullinan cousins to this project if it is still qoing.

A post by snappy681 at http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cul ... .2/mb.ashx on 15 Jul 2010 speculates:
I think the person who made the website is dead now; I've tried endlessly to get a hold of him. No luck.
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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by murf » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:13 pm

Paddy,
I have a family connections with Callinans of Kilmacduane parish. A Thomas Callinan occupied lands in Dangananella East which after his death in 1890 passed on to his nephew Edmond Murphy. I have often wondered if the Callinans and Cullinans were two discrete family groups or was there some interchange between the two name variants. I have not come across any examples of this, but the pronunciations are so close that it almost seems inevitable. You may be able to enlighten me on this.

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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by pwaldron » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:32 am

Murf

I too have wondered from time to time if Callinan and Cullinan could be interchangeable, but I've found absolutely no evidence of this, even though they are both common in the same areas. Quillinan and Quinlan are definitely interchangeable with Cullinan in some families.

If your Edmond Murphy of Dangananella East is the one who married Anne Garry circa 1890, and if you are interested in Anne Garry's genealogy, I may be able to help you. I have seen a Garry pedigree which states that Edward [sic] Murphy was born in Ballycorick, Racquet Hall and died in Danganelly. They had two daughters - Nora christened on 20 Dec 1891, and Mary, known as Ciss, christened on 21 Oct 1893. Ciss married Tom Joe Tubridy, but they had no family. Let me know if you want more details on Anne's ancestry - Garry, Murrihy or Blackall sides.

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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by murf » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:30 pm

Thanks for that Paddy, I would like to pursue this re Ann Garry, but we are diverging somewhat from your original thread so I've started a new one on Ann

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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by DONALI » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:45 am

pwaldron wrote:I am trying to trace the descendants of Charles Cullinan and Bridget McMahon who married in Doonbeg parish on 24 Jan 1880 and afterwards lived in the townland of Dangananella West in the adjoining Kilmacduane parish. Bridget was my first cousin, three times removed.

In 1901, they are at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1078650/
with four sons Michael, Thomas, Martin and John.

Michael emigrated to the U.S. some time between 1901 and 1905 and married Annie Diggins at St. Leo's in Chicago on 11 Apr 1909. See register at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=11823352

On 9 Apr 1905, Tom Cullinan (22, male, single, labourer), last residence Kilrush, sailed from Queenstown on the Lucania. He arrived at Ellis Island on 15 Apr 1905, bound for New York, to join his brother Michl. Cullinan at 59 Vesey St., New York. I have been told that one of his first cousins said that he settled eventually in Buffalo, NY.

In 1911, the parents are at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... st/361055/
with their two remaining sons Martin and John. The census return says that the mother had seven children in all, five still living in 1911, so three had left home and were still alive.

A few weeks after this census, on 26 Apr 1911, John Cullinan (22, single, male, labourer) left Queenstown on the Caronia and arrived at Ellis Island on 3 May 1911. His brother Michael Cullinan of 7712 Normal Avenue in Chicago had paid his fare. He was 5' 9" with dark complexion and dark hair and had been born in Danganelly. His nearest relative at home was his father Charles Cullinan of Danganelly and he was bound for Chicago.

Martin inherited the home farm and eventually erected a tombstone to his father, inscribed:
`Erected by Martin Cullinan in loving memory of his father Charles who died April 30th 1931 aged 75 years.'
See http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... ptions.htm
I have been told that Martin had a son and daughter who both eventually went to England.

Charles Cullinan of Dangananella West (b. Abt 1851/7, d. 1931) could be confused with the slightly older Charles Cullinan of Moanmore Lower (b. Abt 1842/7, d. 1915), who appears in 1901 and 1911 at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... r/1081761/
and
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... er/363719/
Charles of Moanmore married Mary Keane in 1876 (Kilrush PLU q1 v4 p401), and according to the 1911 census they had 13 children, of whom I have names for only 11.

Three of the five children of Charles of Dangananella West alive in 1911 are easily identified: Martin, John and Michael. I am trying to prove that the other two alive in 1911 were Patrick and Thomas, and that the two who died before 1911 were Denis and Jim. I have found no confirmation that the Denis and Jim that I have heard of belong in this family, and have found entries in civil registration indexes that suggest that they do not.

I have a marriage certificate for Patrick Cullinan (son of Charles Cullinan, farmer) and Elizabeth O'Connor, married on 28 Apr 1909 in the Church of Mary Immaculate Refuge of Sinners, Rathmines, Dublin. They appear in 1911 with their first child at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... oad/48606/
which confirms that both were born in Clare. I have lots more information on their family (including a retired Chief Justice of Lesotho!), but have not yet been able to contact any living descendant.

The Cullinan & Cullinane Family Genealogy Project Website at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... /x0115.htm
(which does not appear to have been updated since 2001) describes a suspiciously similar, but far from identical, family group:
Thomas Cullinan (c1881-1933) married Delia Bridget O'Day. From this marriage, there were four daughters and one son (so far identified): Rita Cullinan Hanrihan, Suzanne M. Cullinan Kulp, Thomas J. Cullinan (1916-1986), Anna Cullinan and Mary Margaret Cullinan McNaughton. This family is listed at 18 Euclid Place in Buffalo between 1920 and 1956. Thomas Cullinan (Sr.) had five brothers, John Cullinan; Daniel Cullinan (who remained in Ireland); Michael Cullinan (to Chicago); Patrick Cullinan (in Buffalo) and Martin Cullinan (in Buffalo). This family can be found on Plate XVIII.
Plate XVIII gives some sources, but no other further details; see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... /p0018.htm

To further complicate matters, the surname is pronounced Quillinan and occasionally written Quinlan, but all official records that I have seen use Cullinan.

Can anyone confirm that either the Patrick Cullinan who married Elizabeth O'Connor in Dublin or the Thomas Cullinan who married Delia (or Bridget) O'Day (or O'Dea) in Buffalo was a son of Charles Cullinan and Bridget McMahon?



[Thanks to Cathy McManus Danhauer for additional information in death notices posted at
http://www.facebook.com/groups/countycl ... 931233370/:
Chicago Tribune (IL) - March 05, 1939
CULLINAN
Deceased Name: John J. Cullinan
--John J. Cullinan, suddenly, native of Danganelly, County Clare, Ireland, beloved son of Bridget McMahon and the late Charles Cullinan, loving brother of Michael and the late Thomas. Funeral Tuesday at 9:30 a.m., from funeral parlor, 7653 S. Halsted street to St. Leo church. Interment Holy Sepulchre. Stewart 7700.

Chicago Tribune (IL) - August 18, 1956
CULLINAN
Deceased Name: Anna Cullinan, nee Diggins
--Anna Cullinan, nee Diggins, 7951 S. Green, beloved wife of Michael; fond mother of Mary M. Armstrong; sister of Thomas, the late William Diggins and Bridget Coffey. Funeral from chapel, 7949 S. Halsted street, Monday, 9 a.m., to St. Leo's church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Burial Holy Sepulchre. Native of Ballyduff, County Kerry, Ireland.

Chicago Tribune (IL) - July 18, 1961
Cullinan
Deceased Name: Michael Cullinan
Michael Cullinan, beloved husband of the late Anna, nee Diggins; fond father of Mary M. Armstrong; brother of Martin and the late Patrick, John, and Thomas Cullinan. Funeral Wednesday, 9 a.m., from James Quinlan Funeral Home, 7949 S. Halsted street, to St. Leo's church. Mass 9:30 a.m. Interment Holy Sepulchre cemetery. Native of Danganelly, Cooraclare, County Clare, Ireland.]
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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by DONALI » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:21 pm

I can confirm that the Patrick Cullinan in question is the son of Charles Cullinan and Bridget MacMahon. Although his marriage certificate shows that he married an Elizabeth O'Connor we knew her name as Connors. Were the names considered interchangeable at the time? She appears in the 1901 census in Kilrush Urban as Connors and, as you mention, in the 1911 census as married to Patrick Cullinan. In between we were informed that she had spent time in New York. Patrick left home before 1901 to join the Dublin metropolitan Police. He retired from the Gardaí just before he died in 1944. I am their grandson and am currently in the process of cobbling together a family tree. You are correct about the Chief Justice of Lesotho. His name is Brendan and is still alive, living in Durban, South Africa. Another son, Kevin, was chief of detectives in Botswana. He was killed in a car accident in Co. Kildare in 2005.

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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella Wes

Post by pwaldron » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:07 pm

Hi Donal

I am delighted to meet another fourth cousin on this forum!

I am sending you more details about the Cullinan side in a private message: look for the "1 new message" link at the top left corner of this window.

As regards the Connors/O'Connor side: Yes, Connors and O'Connor have always been interchangeable. In fact, Bridget McMahon's maternal grandmother (our GGGgrandmother) is described as "Mary Galvin alias oConnor" on the tombstone of her first husband and as Mary Connors in the entry for the daughter of her second marriage in the index to the Kilkee baptismal register.

But how do you know that the Eliza Connors at
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1082390/
is the Elizabeth O'Connor (daughter of Thomas O'Connor, decd., farmer) who married Patrick Cullinan in 1909?

The names of the Connors children in the Moore Street family match the names of five of the nine children of Pat O'Connor and Ellen Blake baptised in Kilrush parish:
Eliza bapt. 2 Aug 1885, 15 in 1901
Ellen bapt. 11 Apr 1888, Ellena 12 in 1901
Michael bapt. 12 Sep 1890, 10 in 1901
Teresa bapt. 25 Apr 1892, 7 in 1901
Bridgt bapt. 9 Nov 1894, Bridget 5 in 1901

Valuation Office records show Patrick Connors occupying 76b Moore Street from 1901 to 1904:
http://www.pwaldron.info/ValuationOffice/IMG_1319.JPG
http://www.pwaldron.info/ValuationOffic ... treet.html

It looks like Patrick Connors died before 1911 when his widow and daughter Teresa were in Pound Street:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... et/364358/

When I originally looked for your grandmother in the 1901 census, I thought this was the closest match:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... n/1079580/
However, I now have grave doubts about this one also.

Between us, I hope we will crack this one!

Paddy

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Re: Looking for descendants of Cullinans of Dangananella West

Post by pwaldron » Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:41 am

It's taken almost ten years, but I think that I may have identified the birth record of the Elizabeth O'Connor who married Patrick Joseph Cullinan on 28 Apr 1909.

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