John Egan (jun) of Kilrush m. 1862 Anne Kelly of Glascloon
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:25 pm
I am looking for the family of John Egan (junior) from Kilrush and Anne Kelly from Glascloon.
Their marriage is reported at
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... iages1.htm
1862 3rd February (CJ).
Marriage: On the 26th instant. At the Catholic Church, Doonbeg by the Rev. John Neylon P.P., Mr John Egan of Kilrush to Miss Anne Kelly daughter of the late Mr. Thomas Kelly of Glascloon, in this county.
I suspect that Anne was a half-sister of my GGgrandmother Mary Clancy née Galvin, whose widowed mother Mary Galvin née Conors or O'Connor married Thomas Kelly of Glascloon shortly after the death of her first husband in 1837.
Eight different children of John Egan and Anne Kelly, including two Thomases, one a half-twin, appear in eighteen transcriptions (including duplicates) in Ireland Births and Baptisms at
https://familysearch.org/search/records ... id=1584963
All of these, and a ninth child born before Civil Registration (Mary Anne, chr. 3 Jan 1863), appear in the Kilrush parish baptismal register. Some of the births were announced in the newspapers and also appear at
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... iages1.htm
By 1901, none of the children was still living with the parents:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1082207/
When the father John Egan junior died in 1903, his son John (otherwise John Patrick, who today might be known as John Egan III) erected a tombstone in his memory in Kilrush Churchyard; see
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... ptions.htm
The older tombstone on the same plot confirms that Margaret and Agnes as well as the first Thomas died in infancy, leaving six children to be traced.
I believe that I have traced John Patrick and his brother Thomas Patrick to Jersey City where John P.Egan was president of the John P.Egan Association, a political organization of 5,000 Hudson County Democrats, according to his obituary in the New York Times of 27 July 1932. He was survived by a brother, Thomas Egan of the local Police Department, whom I have found in the censuses up to 1940.
Three siblings, Mary Anne, Michael and Elizabeth, have so far completely eluded me.
However, I think I may have found Ellen Egan, b. 20 December 1867. If so, she changed her name to Helen Madeline Egan and regularly knocked several years off her age.
Helen Madeline Egan married Binford Throne in Manhattan on 8 June 1904. The transcript of the record at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F6HW-T52
leaves the bride's marital status, birthplace, age and previous husband's name all blank, but confirms that her parents were John Egan and Anna [sic] Kelly.
An unusual name like Binford Throne is easily traced. There is no evidence that Binford and Helen Madeline had any children together. All census returns confirm that Helen was born in Ireland.
However, Helen had earlier apparently given birth to a daughter, by a New York born father, sometime between 1892 and 1899. That daughter can be found with her mother and stepfather in various censuses:
In the 1910 federal census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M5QV-36M, she is described as Laura Egan, stepdaughter, aged 17.
In the 1915 state census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9TC-SBY she is transcribed as Lansa Throne, 18, daughter.
In the 1920 federal census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJRF-FGQ she is Loretta Throne, 22, daughter.
In the 1925 state census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9BZ-TQR she is Loretta M Throne, 26, daughter
I have not yet found her in 1900 or 1905.
Her death is reported at
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1031623903
Brooklyn Standard
Death notices: Thursday August 9, 1928
THRONE- Laura Mary, daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Binford THRONE, 128 New York
Ave, suddenly on Aug. 6th at The Glen, Adirondacks. She was a member of the
Junior Auxillary of the Holy Family Hospital and Catholic Women's Benevolent
Legion, Ave Maria, No 36. Funeral from her late residence on Friday, Aug 10,
at 9:30am with a solemn requiem mass at the Church of St. Gregory, Brooklyn
avenue and St. John's Place. Interment at St. John's cemetery. Kindly omit
flowers. South Bend, Indiana, papers please copy.
I am not tempted to pay the cemetery the minimum fee of an exorbitant USD75 to check the records! See
http://www.cathcemetery-bklyn.org/pages.php?page=11
Unresolved questions:
1. Could there be two parallel families with parents John Egan and Anne or Anna Kelly, or have I sufficient proof that Ellen born in Kilrush is the same person as Helen married in Manhattan?
2. Who was Laura/Loretta's father? Was he another Egan or did she simply take her mother's surname? Could she have been officially adopted by her stepfather, and, if so, are the records of the adoption likely to be available?
3. What was the South Bend connection?
4. What became of the other three untraced Egan siblings, Mary Anne, Michael and Elizabeth?
5. Are there any living descendants of John Egan and Anne Kelly out there?
Their marriage is reported at
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... iages1.htm
1862 3rd February (CJ).
Marriage: On the 26th instant. At the Catholic Church, Doonbeg by the Rev. John Neylon P.P., Mr John Egan of Kilrush to Miss Anne Kelly daughter of the late Mr. Thomas Kelly of Glascloon, in this county.
I suspect that Anne was a half-sister of my GGgrandmother Mary Clancy née Galvin, whose widowed mother Mary Galvin née Conors or O'Connor married Thomas Kelly of Glascloon shortly after the death of her first husband in 1837.
Eight different children of John Egan and Anne Kelly, including two Thomases, one a half-twin, appear in eighteen transcriptions (including duplicates) in Ireland Births and Baptisms at
https://familysearch.org/search/records ... id=1584963
All of these, and a ninth child born before Civil Registration (Mary Anne, chr. 3 Jan 1863), appear in the Kilrush parish baptismal register. Some of the births were announced in the newspapers and also appear at
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... iages1.htm
By 1901, none of the children was still living with the parents:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1082207/
When the father John Egan junior died in 1903, his son John (otherwise John Patrick, who today might be known as John Egan III) erected a tombstone in his memory in Kilrush Churchyard; see
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... ptions.htm
The older tombstone on the same plot confirms that Margaret and Agnes as well as the first Thomas died in infancy, leaving six children to be traced.
I believe that I have traced John Patrick and his brother Thomas Patrick to Jersey City where John P.Egan was president of the John P.Egan Association, a political organization of 5,000 Hudson County Democrats, according to his obituary in the New York Times of 27 July 1932. He was survived by a brother, Thomas Egan of the local Police Department, whom I have found in the censuses up to 1940.
Three siblings, Mary Anne, Michael and Elizabeth, have so far completely eluded me.
However, I think I may have found Ellen Egan, b. 20 December 1867. If so, she changed her name to Helen Madeline Egan and regularly knocked several years off her age.
Helen Madeline Egan married Binford Throne in Manhattan on 8 June 1904. The transcript of the record at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F6HW-T52
leaves the bride's marital status, birthplace, age and previous husband's name all blank, but confirms that her parents were John Egan and Anna [sic] Kelly.
An unusual name like Binford Throne is easily traced. There is no evidence that Binford and Helen Madeline had any children together. All census returns confirm that Helen was born in Ireland.
However, Helen had earlier apparently given birth to a daughter, by a New York born father, sometime between 1892 and 1899. That daughter can be found with her mother and stepfather in various censuses:
In the 1910 federal census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M5QV-36M, she is described as Laura Egan, stepdaughter, aged 17.
In the 1915 state census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9TC-SBY she is transcribed as Lansa Throne, 18, daughter.
In the 1920 federal census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJRF-FGQ she is Loretta Throne, 22, daughter.
In the 1925 state census at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K9BZ-TQR she is Loretta M Throne, 26, daughter
I have not yet found her in 1900 or 1905.
Her death is reported at
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1031623903
Brooklyn Standard
Death notices: Thursday August 9, 1928
THRONE- Laura Mary, daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Binford THRONE, 128 New York
Ave, suddenly on Aug. 6th at The Glen, Adirondacks. She was a member of the
Junior Auxillary of the Holy Family Hospital and Catholic Women's Benevolent
Legion, Ave Maria, No 36. Funeral from her late residence on Friday, Aug 10,
at 9:30am with a solemn requiem mass at the Church of St. Gregory, Brooklyn
avenue and St. John's Place. Interment at St. John's cemetery. Kindly omit
flowers. South Bend, Indiana, papers please copy.
I am not tempted to pay the cemetery the minimum fee of an exorbitant USD75 to check the records! See
http://www.cathcemetery-bklyn.org/pages.php?page=11
Unresolved questions:
1. Could there be two parallel families with parents John Egan and Anne or Anna Kelly, or have I sufficient proof that Ellen born in Kilrush is the same person as Helen married in Manhattan?
2. Who was Laura/Loretta's father? Was he another Egan or did she simply take her mother's surname? Could she have been officially adopted by her stepfather, and, if so, are the records of the adoption likely to be available?
3. What was the South Bend connection?
4. What became of the other three untraced Egan siblings, Mary Anne, Michael and Elizabeth?
5. Are there any living descendants of John Egan and Anne Kelly out there?