CARMODY AND MCCARTHY AND HINCHEY

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CARMODY AND MCCARTHY AND HINCHEY

Post by carmo » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:58 am

James Carmody, aged 27 and being a farmer, married Honora McCarthy, aged 20 in County Clare, Ireland in or about 1838.
Thomas Carmody was born on 17 November 1843, having been preceded by John (abt 1840), Patrick (1 April 1841) and Bridget (abt 1842). James was born in about 1846 and another son, Michael, may exist.
Thomas joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on 18 December 1863 in Clare, being appointed as a sub-constable, serving in Clare and Limerick. The Royal Irish Constabulary records refer to him joining 18 December 1863 aged 24. He was recommended by Sub-Inspector John Donovan, who in 1863 was stationed at Newmarket-on-Fergus in Co. Clare.

Patrick joined the Royal Irish Constabulary in 1862, serving 6 years.

It is known that Thomas, John, Patrick and Bridget emigrated to Melbourne Australia.

There also seems to be a connection with the McCarthy and Hinchey families in Australia

I AM SEEKING INFORMATION BOTH FAMILIES, AND PARTICULARLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TOWN JAMES AND HONORA LIVED IN.

THANK YOU


BILL CARMODY

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Re: CARMODY AND MCCARTHY AND HINCHEY

Post by smcarberry » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:27 pm

Bill,

I have a distant Hinchey connection, in that my ancestor Patrick Carberry of Lakyle (a few miles west of Kilseily, East Clare) is the apparent brother of the Peter Carberry who appears in this Canadian record:
Drouin Collection: Basilique Notre Dame, Montreal
Marriage 14 Nov 1854
Patrick Tracy, journalier [day laborer], of-age son of deceased Thomas Tracy & deceased Mary Hinchy, of Co. Clare
and
Catherine Carberry, of-age daughter of Peter Carberry, journalier, & Catherine Tynan, of Co. Clare, Ireland
witnesses: Jean Baptiste _racere [signed JB Saneer?] and John Bermingham

Likely more relevant for your inquiry is the Peter Carberry who himself was having children baptized in this same small area in the 1850s and thus either the brother or cousin of the above Catherine Carberry Tracy. This second-generation Peter was a schoolteacher in Kilkishen (the main town for that area) in the 1860s and needed the support of RIC constable Patrick McCarty (aka Carty and Carthy) when a controversy arose over his teaching methods. Interestingly, a Daniel McCarthy preceded Peter Carberry as a teacher in Kilkishen. The present-day Patrick McCarthy, a professor in Illinois USA, has placed online some photos of the Kilkishen constabulary building and the old schoolhouse :
http://community.webshots.com/album/548725829HQfTCo

Here is the Griffiths Valuation record (1855) for his ancestor:
Carthy, Patrick, Teeronea: Kilkishen Village, Clonlea, Tulla

Here is Prof. McCarthy's description of his Kilkishen family:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1038974283

Here is a link to the Griffiths Valuation McCarthy listings in Clare:
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... fithm3.htm

Here are the Hinchy listings in East Clare in that GV database:
Denis, Clooney, Clooney, Tulla
Michael ([son of] John), Derrycalliff Clooney, Tulla
Michael ([son of] Ned), Derrycalliff, Clooney, Tulla
Mary, Feakle, Feakle, Scarriff
Michael, Derryvinna, Feakle, Scarriff

Here are the James Carmody listings in East Clare in the GV:
Carrowdotia, Kilraghtis, Ennis
Clonmoney, West Bunratty, Ennis
Clonmoney, West Bunratty, Ennis
Mountrice, Kilseily, Limerick

The way that an East Clare townland is listed in the various databases varies over the years of the 19th century. The very same place can be listed as though a part of O'Callaghan Mills or Tulla or Scariff, and places forever in Clare can nonetheless have a Limerick reference attached to the townland if the larger administrative district is/was Limerick.

That's all I can contribute but perhaps that can start some discussion here.

Sharon Carberry
Georgia USA

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